Hi guys has anyone else out there with a Zeal had an issue of not being able to get much above 100km/hr? Mine happily smashes 50kms in 1st, 90kms in 2nd but once in 3rd or higher the thing just doesn't want to get above 100kms let alone struggles to get there. Have pulled carbys apart and checked for blockages and the seals seem ok as well as adjusting the floats as to the correct float levels. Have just installed pod filter instead of stock air box but was having issue before these were installed. Any help or advice would be awesome.
Pod filter isnt going to help ..... put it back to stock ...at least untill u get the problem sorted Has anything else been changed? Did u check the main jets ? are they correct (stock) and clear? Has this been a problem since u had the bike or did it just 'suddenly' start?
Problems been around since I got it, the guy I brought it off said it struggled to get above 100, runs better with pods, stock filter was filthy and too expensive to replace for me, jets had been fiddled with (prior to me owning it) instead off all small in start up and all big in running it was half half, 2 were correct and the other 2 were running small for main and big for start up. have since swapped them back to where they should be. As far as I can tell they are the correct factory size. All the jets were clear.
Half this forum is filled with threads/posts on trying to get inline 4s running correctly ..... and thats with stock intake , exhaust and jetting .... and 99% of the problems are the carbs The filter for the FZR is very expensive also ..... I washed mine in hot soapy water then blew it with compressed air when it was dry. Its not just the filter that controls the airflow, its the airbox and its shape etc also. Heres the specs for the Zeals BDST26 carby The other things to check are the intake manifold rubbers ...u have to squeeze them to look for cracks letting air in. Also the diaphragms inside the carbs for holes , tears etc. Are the needles and clips correct? Are the slides moving correctly? And have the carbs been synced? Heres wat a seal kit looks like ..... and wat might need replacing http://www.litetek.co/Carb_Kit_Yamaha_Zeal.html Theres 101 other possible causes for your problem but if a previous owner (dont we luv um) has been mucking with the carburettors then my first move would be set them up stock with stock settings first.
Cheers for giving that advice I atleast have somewhere to start from now, I'll tinker around with it and once I establish the issue I'll repost the solution.
So unsure what changed, havnt done anything to bike and all of a sudden it'll let me get up 120 now couldn't risk going any higher :/
not sure on the zeal, but the 3ln's run different size main jets on the outer carbs... as those cylinders run slightly cooler, so they leaned them up to increase heat efficiency... you may find you have 3ln carbs or the zeal is the same... if it revs out nicely in first and second, way over 8000rpm it won't be carbs, but could be the pod filters... these carbs just do NOT like pod filters... also check exup cables... assuming the zeal runs exup (not sure)
Not sure will have to have a look, but yeah revs it's head off easily in 1st and 2nd and was having same issues prior to pods, currently in the shop getting the cam chain replaced as had a nasty rattle in it so will find out if that may have been the problem when i get it back.
Hi guys, have pulled the carbies down again and checked the sizings they appear to be correct. Was talking to my old man and he thinks it could be the sprocket sizing now have gone and checked mine and they are F1-13 and R1-44 but from a sprocket website they've got diffferent numbers plus another zeal as well any help would be greatly appreciated. so currently i'm running what the 520 Con is running what ever that model is, could my issues be caused by not running what the F1-17 and R1-57 or should I just go one size up on one or another? The big just seems to have no top end what so ever, attached tacho the other day and 1st gear to 40km/h it's hitting 8.000rpm then slot up to second gear and go up to 60km/h it's at 10,000rpm :/ I honestly have no idea when it comes to things like this. Also running the 520-120 chain obviously to go with said sprockets.
so is it stuttering at higher speeds and not wanting to accelerate. Doubt the sprockets are your problem at all, sounds fuel/ignition related. i would get everything back to stock form and start from there.
Everything as far as i know is stock minus the pods but issue was around prior to the pods. not so much stutter Just refuses to gain anymore, went to over take someone the other day doing 80 in a 100 zone and it was a long mission to get around them, my mate on his 2012 CBR250 overtook me while I overtook the 4x4 and caravan :/ I hit 100/110 and then is just runs out of puff in 4th, if i decent gust of wind comes alon git pretty well stunts my speed and any decent hill climbing limits me to 100 also regardless of 3rd or 4th gear.
It sounds to me like it's hitting a wall just when it's supposed to be coming onto the main jets, it definitely shouldn't be sprockets. Remember these bikes are supposed to rev to 18000rpm and beyond.
Ok, I know, that is not helping First do what everyone is suggesting. Fit the standard airbox. Don't bother doing anything with pod filters fitted to it. Having said that if it will redline in the lower gears then it should be electrical or compression, but fitting pod filters seems to just mess these bikes up. Next, try new plugs and check the leads and caps. Mr Grey has a bit of a section in his Fizzer thread about that. Perform the static tests on the coils that are outlined in the manual. Check the valve clearances and the compression. cheers Blair
Well I stand a little corrected, in saying that however between 10k and 14k is when your bike should be making peak power so there has to be an issue with fuel, air or spark.
Without my tacho permanently mounted I don't 100% know what rev range it's running flat but most likely would be in that range. Is it possible it could be a needle issue? I've checked to make sure jets are fine and correct (after discovering someone had done all sorts of weird **** to them) if the needles are in the incorrect spot could this cause this issue?