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Project Project SRX250

Discussion in 'Your 250cc Projects' started by edwardo, Apr 5, 2020.

  1. maelstrom

    maelstrom LiteTek Staff Member Premium Member 250cc Vendor Contributing Member

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    I wouldn't get your engine blasted unless you have actually seen the inside of engines that were done by the same person. I am going to be doing a home wet blast on my Honda engine but I have sealed it and I will blast it. It is all on me. Once I remove all of the engine covers I will know if it worked.
     
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    I am with @maelstrom on Blasting the engine... My barrel and head were done when they were being bored etc but the cases were just paint stripped as were the clutch and generator cover..its way too risky to have the complete engine blasted and really no need.
    Patience, paint stripper and wire brushes are far better.
     
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    edwardo Well-Known Member Contributing Member

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    Ok message received haha I won't be blasting the motor! Bit more elbow grease, wire wheels paint stripper and a couple of afternoons.
     
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    I'm considering pulling the head and cylinder off to get blasted..

    I'd get a more thorough clean and paint would benefit. I have some new valve seals I'd like to put on too. I could also inspect valves and lap if necessary.
    Cons being extra cost of gaskets plus any other things that I might find..

    Two other things if any of you legends could help.

    1. First picture attached. I assume this bolt/screw with the copper washer retains the clutch lever? I had a go of getting it out to help cover up holes for paint stripping and I couldn't get it loose.. it was very much stuck.

    2. Looks like this motor has a welch plug above the exhaust? Is replacement as simple as knocking the old one out and bunging a new one in?

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    Cheers guys.
     
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    That screw may need some help from an impact driver and a hammer ?
    Not sure on the welch plug

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    Cheers!
    I did give it a go with an impact. I don't have the correct bit so didn't want to strip it. I do have a half inch impact might give it a go with that haha. Probably should get a jis bit set too
     
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    Definitely get the JIS bits... you are going to need them to get the Stator cover off so you can fix the stator and pickup leads that are chopped off...
    Above the exhaust is just a metal plug... I am not really sure what it is there for to be honest.
    If you are going to take the barrel and head off you may as well change the cam chain while you are there... and the Oil pump gears... may as well throw in a new set of rings as well.. unless the barrel is worn then it is a re-bore and a new piston and rings... hmm what are the bearings like as well.. .
    The big question is how far down the rabbit hole do you go??????
    Sure as sh!t if you dont do something while you are in there... it will come back to haunt you at some stage... :)
     
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    Yeah I have set of screwdrivers but nothing I can chuck in an impact driver unfortunately. Also I don't think I've seen a bolt or screw on this bike that hasn't been mangled haha

    Exactly my problem is where do you stop.. I have oil pump gears on the way. I'm so far over budget as it stands. And yes, guaranteed something will come back to bite me on the arse later if it's not all done.

    Could easily be $500+ going that route..
     
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    JIS bits ordered. Still having a think about how much I want to disassemble this motor.

    On the plus side of things I managed to pick up another srx250. Popped up on Facebook marketplace and I messaged straight away didn't get a reply. Ad disappeared and I thought I'd missed out. Got a message a little while later and got the deal done.

    It's missing a few things and is quite ratty. Would need frame blasted and painted.. refurb carb and intake boots.. rebuild fuel tap.. plus a lot more.. Hang on, how is this on the plus side of things? Hahaha
     
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    Sounds like you are already along way down that rabbit hole.... no turning back now :)
     
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    I would suggest finding a new powdercoating business. The one I use specialises in bike stuff, they also own a Harley shop. Very good work and meticulous preparation. Ally parts are blasted with Al oxide. If you can find someone like that it is well worth paying a little bit more.
     
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    Here is that "bung" above the exhaust.... including the part number.
    It is a rubberised steel bung. The small bolt above it does nothing in terms fo keeping it in position. I am guessing that they use this head on another model that has either a Tacho drive or something coming from there as the small bolt has a locating pin on the end of it.
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    Just remembered that plug block's off where the Auto Decomp linkage is on the XT250 4V's
     
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    Thats right... I forgot I had to take that off the TT350 head... DOH
     
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    Have had some time spent on the bike recently which is good.

    Have decided to take the head and barrel off for blasting.

    In the meantime I have paint stripped the cases and getting them ready for paint. Will be going engine enamel primer and gloss black I reckon.

    Any tips on painting the cases and engine? Done my fair share of painting in the past but the more you know..

    Was thinking scotch brite pads (600ish) to get in all the nooks and crannies then hit it with the cams. The freshly stripped metal surfaces are oxidising already.

    Very fiddly, messy and unpleasant business this paint stripping..
     

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    Also measured up clearances and all are in spec. Great!
    But was thinking about future maintenance and adjusting clearances.

    The manual states a specific tool to do clearances. Something about wedging the tool under the cam and rotating the cam to release the shim or something?

    I recently found out I don't have a mind's eye, I can't picture or imagine things from text. Someone help me out with how this process is actually carried out? Haha
     
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    Etch prime the cases and then Scotchbrite them before the gloss black.
    There are some really good clear coats in the Eastwood range too.
    Diamond clear in a can is great to use and will go over bare metal if you machine off the fin edges like factory finish.

    As for the tool for the shims. It depresses the bucket allowing you to pop the shim out.
    Overall it isn’t too hard to loosen up the cam chain tensioner and lift each cam up.
    No need to remove the bucket if you don’t want to.


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    Really like the idea of those Eastwood paints, mainly durability. But they're so expensive!

    Was going to settle for dupli-color primer + gloss black


    Cheers for explanation, after having a geeze at it it makes sense!
     
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    I used the Aluminium look Duplicolor but then used the Eastwood Diamond clear over the top.
    It goes a long way and gives a really good finish.
    I also used it on my rims ( on the painted surface )
    For a clear that can be used on bare metal it is really good.
    The other paint I have used is gloss black caliper paint. It is pretty tough and has great gloss.
    Engine heat won’t affect it either.

    If you think the Eastwood paint is expensive I am looking at having a play with a 2 Pak Clear in a can from DNA- Custom paints in Adelaide.
    It is a German paint and is $57 a can I think, plus freight lol


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