Help Ebay Rotor advice?

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  1. Damus

    Damus She is a BEAST and riding it is comparable to sex Dirty Wheel Club

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    I think it should be fine mate. People have varying opinions on stuff from SE asia, india etc but the bottom line is they're pretty much always made in a similar place. It's what they're made of and what standards they comply with that is the difference.

    For example, if you look at the metalgear website it says "we're an australian company with the best quality blah blah" but really they just import the stuff, brand it and onsell for a markup. I even have an email from them saying it's not made in australia!

    If you're really fussy request the engineering standards the discs are compliant to, for example the metalgear FZR250RR rear brake disc has this:

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    The price for that is $124.95. I can buy them from china to EXACTLY the same standard for around 50% of that cost. I just have to wait a little longer.

    Make up your own mind though, but remember price is NOT always an accurate representation of quality.
     
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    Mclaren Well-Known Member Contributing Member

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    Metal gear is initially made in China then finished in brendale 2 mins from my house they are by far better quality than the eBay stuff I have seen what they do when they fail and it ain't pretty
    Spend the money and get metal gear brakes are one of the most important parts on a bike and trying to save few dollars are not worth injury or ya life
     
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    They are made in China joker but harden and riveted in brendale to insure quality over cheap Chinese
     
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    I have metal gear many times, I would recommend them over some of the flimsy Chinese ones I have seen
     
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    I went with metal gear discs & pads on my Ninja 250R, and stainless steel brake lines from motorcycle superstore, can't remember the brand. Installed by bike shop at the time. The brakes were very capable after that. New fluid and steel lines do wonders for brake feel.

    I have bought a chinese rear disk for the 3LN6 for about $75 including expedited postage to Aus... will let you know how it goes.
     
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    @Mclaren with no disrespect, apart from some very good marketing - what actual evidence have you seen to suggest Metalgear do it any differently/better than anywhere else? Of course they want you to believe that, but please excuse my skepticism because in my opinion it's an inherently inaccurate conclusion that China is that far behind the rest of the world in this kind of thing.

    Not all Chinese stuff is good, I have problems with a lot of their stuff - but in this case if it is made to the same engineering standards it's basically the same thing (I say basically the same because standards usually have tolerance limit for materials compositions like the % of Chromium added etc).

    Being in manufacturing and dealing with suppliers of goods and equipment all the time I can tell you that most of the time I import stuff from the USA, Europe or Asia because the Australian stuff is expensive, comparable and in some cases far behind the technology in the rest of the world.

    Make your own choice, sure, but do it based on science and not marketing. Please.
     
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    Sorry for the double post... but here's what I mean.

    When I asked Metalgear to clarify how their product was different from another comparable one in china the response I got was:

    "Yes our discs are SUS420. The testing for the TUV in Germany may reflect on the price. We stand behind our products to guarantee quality and safety of all our braking products. Sometimes issues can arise with a purchase for overseas."

    So a 200% cost is justified because some consulting company in Germany test a few products to ensure they fall within the tolerances of the specifications they claim on the product? Yeh sorry, I deal with TUV certified engineers all the time and it has it's place but similar to Europe's ATEX certification (long story but it's basically a bunch of money thrown to bureaucrats) I'm not sure there's any real justification for that sort of markup. If they do it better they should be 10-15% above the chinese, not bloody 100%!

    As you can tell, I'm pretty passionate about this kind of thing lol :D
     
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    Ok but if ur pads or disc fail these guys warrant and replace
    As for manufacturing I was a machinist and I'm telling u I spent more time fixing crap work from overseas than I would ever like
    Yes make a choice
    Yes some Chinese stuff is ok but there standards are far lower than ours and safety isn't a issue for them when they ship from a eBay account rather than established business here in Aus
    Metal gear overheads would be far greater than overseas and charge for that
    I choose them because 1 I have the ability to speak the same language and can trust my brakes will work I can't with Chinese my opinion I have no problem paying extra for it
     
  10. Damus

    Damus She is a BEAST and riding it is comparable to sex Dirty Wheel Club

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    I will go with metal gear for piece of mind. I didnt cheap out on the braided lines or the pads so why cheap out now I guess.
    Joker has valid points and the metal gear are expensive but its pretty much fail safe so metal gear it is.
     
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    Just my 2 cents:

    - Chinese rotors have a reputation of warping quickly. They are made of a relatively soft steel
    - They come come in 3mm and 3.5mm thickness. OEM specs for the MC22 rotors is 3.5mm as the minimum thickness, so even the "thick" ones come already below minimum
    - I gave up reselling Chinese rotors due to the fact that most of the front ones warped within 3 to 5 weeks of use. Way to think and weak to cope with the pressure caused by stopping a (small) bike.- Metalgear rotors are partially made in China, but by Metalgear themselves. They do not buy the parts from some brake part manufacturer, precisely to keep consistency
    - All Metalgear brake pads and rotors have the TÜV certification. Only TÜV certified parts can be sold in Germany, due to strict safety standards.

    When thinking about brake, chain, helmets, and other important parts for your bike, think twice before going for the cheapest option. Normally, there is a good reason why it's so cheap.
     
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  12. Damus

    Damus She is a BEAST and riding it is comparable to sex Dirty Wheel Club

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    @XCite Bikes well i would buy some metal gear rotors off you now but I already bought the sintered pads from your store and I want to meal deal!!! can we organise a meal deal? like the rotor siniterd pads package thingy?
     
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    There is a package of rotor and pads. But since you already got the pads, you can just pay the difference and get the rotors. Contact me at sales (at) xcitebikes.com.au
     
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