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Chains ?????

Discussion in 'FZR250.com - Archives' started by Embo, Dec 15, 2003.

  1. Embo

    Embo New Member

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    About how long do chains last on FZR's(250) in k's i guess would be best ?
    I realise riding style and use would have a great inpact on chain wear/life. Also what are the options can you get sealed chains for em ??

    Anybody bought a chain recently what are they worth ?

    What signs should I look for in a worn/dead chain ? Sticky links I guess would be a big one ?


    Thanks ppl
     
  2. Boz

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    From my experience - don't know how this compares with others.

    When I bought my bike it had a (relatively) new chain and sprockets on it. I now need to get a new chain and sprockets (25 000 km's later - I should have actually got one perhaps at 20 000 instead, but I had no money at the time).

    Signs (on my bike): the chain has no sticky links or anything. However there are tight spots in the chain which makes it quite difficult to tighten properly. You can see these by checking the slack fo the chain at one point, rolling the wheel about 1/8th of a turn, checking slackness, and repeating until a complete rotation is done. If there is a noticable difference in slackness there are tight spots. My sprockets are also wearing down a bit. Just so you know - tight spots are not the end of the world. What it does do though is cause it longer to change gears at times (the chain sometimes skips), and it can also cause a slight loss in power. Tight spots are essentially just that the chain has stretched unevenly - some links stretched a lot and others remained firm.

    Chain: I have been told that the chain on the fzr is a unique size. Most 'standard' chains come with 120 links, and most bikes need a chain that is 110-120 links long. However the fzr uses a 130 link chain (can't confirm this as I have not bought a new chain, though I have no reason to doubt). To add to this the chain is quite thin, and thus a high quality chain is typically required to deal with the relatively large torque being transmitted through the chain. I have been quoted $130 for a quality replacement chain. I have been quoted ~$300 for replacement chain and sprockets.
     
  3. Embo

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    BOZ

    Thanks for the informative response boz !! Well my bike has done 23,000 ks and the guy i bought it from said he done the sprokets at 16,000 so they should be ok ??. But i'm sus on the chain !

    If you look at the links just after it comes off the rear sprocket it kinda dips if ya know what i mean like the links are a bit stiff. I'm unsure about when the chain was replaced if at all <!-- s:( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" /><!-- s:( -->
     
  4. Boz

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    One day while at some m-bike shops, have a look at their sprockets and compare to yours. Usually they are fairly pointy, and not rounded. You would expect yours to be slightly rounded, but not much.

    You may want to try degreasing then wd40 or crc on the links where they are sticking, then re-grease them afterwards. It may simply be that there are just a few degenerate links that did not get enoough grease initially. May save the cost of a chain. (I'm cheap, so I always do everything I can before I buy something new for my bike)
     
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    Hey BOZ, I think your right on close expection after a good ole degrease the chain looks in really good condition, I must have been changed along with the sprockets <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

    Thanks man
     
  6. Boz

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    Glad I could help!
     
  7. Jarmizz

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    chain

    It comes down to how much u trash ya bike, how much chain lube u use, what brand it is.

    A good chain which is well lubed should last 8 months of riding to work and back every day.

    Also change that sprokets at the same time that way every thing is up to order. My mates chain broke and smashed all his engine caseings and cost $1000 to fix. I would say change the chain and sproket every 10,000kms of normally riding
     
  8. Patske

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    yeah I'm due for a sprocket and chain replacement. And at around 160 bux it's pretty worth it. I've read that a poorly conditioned chain and sprocket can lose you up to 15% power at the wheel.
     
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    hey EMBO - I put a new chain on mine about 3 months ago - and cost about $45.

    The 3LN uses a 520 chain and the 2KR uses a 428 (i think)

    To check the chain, grab the vertical section at the rear of the rear sprocket and pull it away horizontally rearwards from the sprocket to see how much slop is in it. My old one pulled out more than 8mm. The new one sat snug when pulled, so I did not change the sprockets.

    Look for unevenness on the sprocket teeth - i.e. one edge worn more than the other. If it doesnt look, or feel worn with a new chain wrapped right around it, I would not replace it.

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  10. FZR Dude

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    I just replaced my chain today infact after 16,100 kms. And it needed it. Theeth on the front were shot, but the ones on the rear were not nearly as bad.
    I also added a Pro-Oiler set up so I never have to lube my chain again (woot). All I have to do it top up the bottle and press a button. The guy that recommended it to me has over 25,800 kms on his chain and Pro-Oiler set up.
     
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    dude, can i know the the exact chain size for our little fzr's?? and the standard size of sprockets. i think i got mine already been modified b4 i bought it. thanx dude. really need to change the change and sprockets and chain !!! thanx again.
     
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    Don't stuff around when it comes to chains. Buy a good o-ring, you will get good wear out of it and better response.

    My chain cost me $190 for an o-ring. If you lube it after every tank of fuel or 200k's it will last you for a LONG time. No one can tell you how long it will last, it's up to you to check the chain.

    If you don't lube it, and don't ensure it's adjusted correctly then expect to replace it very soon. However if you lube it regularly with GOOD chain lube (I use white spray on lube that doesn't flick off) then it will last you a long time.

    After I replaced my chain with a good o-ring, I can seriously feel the power increase. No lies
     
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    I use that lithium grease on both my bikes to great effect cause it sticks like sh!t to blanket. Not sure about the power increase though? What you are experiencing is reduced drag and friction in your drive train.
     
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    Fiew little points...

    Unless you are racing the bike use an o-ring chain (I have been informed that no one manufactures an X-ring to suit an FZR without extending it). A non ring chain will take away less power but it ware out real qiock about 1000 to 5000km!!

    Always change the sprokets when changing the chain as worn sprokets will chew up the new...

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    Sweet Deal, TBone.
     
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    I so forgot about these sets... only reading this thred I remembered! And remembered I posted them for sale! They have been siting om my shelf for about a year!! lol bought them on an Auction and I thought the chains were for a dirt bike!
     
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    Hey T bone, How many teeth on each Sprocket?? There seem's to be some confusion about what is standard. As I'm going to Surfer's at Christmas ,is there any chance we could do a trade?
     
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    Grr I forgot (and I cant be stuffed getting them out) but I think the front has 17theeth.. rear?? and chain has 136 links so 6 have to be cut off...

    Edit: and If I still have em... shoure!! also I can send them to you... it will cost as they are heavy but I don't think it will be that much..

    and if you are going to be in surfers... Hmm I have a brother about an hours ride north from there so there could be a way for you to pick them up from there... IF THERE IS A WILL THERE IS A WAY
     
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    Is that anywhere near Muloolabar( havin 5 day's there too)???
     
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    More like sunshine coase... err Maleny?? or something like it... I'll have to look it up...
     

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