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Discussion in 'FZR250.com - Archives' started by bigkev, Oct 15, 2004.

  1. bigkev

    bigkev New Member

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    ok guys, i drained the oil this evening and it was nothing but oil! No coolant mixed in it. <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> so i guess i havent blown the head gasket. Now i'm racking my brain trying to find out why my bike is doing this. GRRRRRR! any ideas anyone?
     
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    bigkev New Member

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    also, i noticed a petrol smell coming from the oil. anyone know what that could be and if thats the cause of my problems
     
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    If you have gas/fuel/petro/go juice in your oil, Do not ride the bike. Bad things can happen.
     
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    Something may be stuck in the float causing fuel to leak into the cylinder then past the rings. Disassemble the carbs and clean. Check and set the float heights. Then go riding.
     
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    FZR Dude New Member

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    Third times a charm. I was just re-reading this topic and I have a question:
    Is the bike cold when this happens? If so, then you have a blown head gasket. BUT you also have thefuel in the oil issue to address as well.
    Sorry for the bad news.
     
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    bigkev New Member

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    i thought that coolant and oil would mix if i had blown the head gasket. nothing is mixing except for the fuel and oil.
     
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    FZR Dude New Member

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    Not always true. I thought the same thing untill I ran into this very same problem with my Celica when I bought it. I drove the car like that for almost a year before the water and oil started mixing. I also had the bubbling resevoir. Just get it fixed before Summer is gone, unless you're in the northern Hemisphere. Then get it fixed be for winter is over.
     
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    yeah im gonna take it in today to get looked at, anyone know how much i'll be looking at?
     
  9. bigkev

    bigkev New Member

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    mechanic told me that with the fzr, petrol leaking into the oil is nothing to worry about if the bike has been sitting around for a while. he said that when its hasent been run for a while the petrol in the carbies tend to drain into the engine.
     
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    Just be sure that it isn't an on-going problem. Motors go BANG when there is fuel in the oil. BANG as in generally non-repairable.
     
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    That happens to me too. the prob eas the fan fuse broke and i ddnt realize it. so the fan wasnt working. and my temp gauge is not grounded (i forgot to fix it). the coolant in my resevoir was boiling and flowing out down to my exhaust pipe..thats the reason why it was smoking.
     
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    sounds like a design flaw. on the across the motor will not run at all unless the key is in the ignition. and yeah no offence but the kill switch is what i always use to turn my bike off. its not a car :p
     
  13. Boz

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    as you had no coolant in your bike for a while it could be air (perhaps) just coming out of the radiator. Have you opened the lid on the right hand side below your handle bars? (the one that says do not remove while hot or something). Open that - when the bike is VERY cool - and make sure that the rad fluid is there. If not you may need to do a proper flush of the radiator since it was running on empty.

    Second question - when you open this lid, and also look at the reservoir under the seat - is the coolant staying a nice pure colour (usually green) or is the colour quickly changing to a murky brown? If the latter then you may have something to worry about (i.e. head gasket...).

    I am just relating what I have read elsewhere to your problems so my 'diagnosis' may be incorrect...
     
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    bigkev - re. the petrol in oil, make sure you turn off your fuel tap if the bike's sitting for any period of time (generally more than a day). Because the FZR uses gravity feed, if left for any significant time the fuel drains into the oil, and as FZRdude says, this isn't good.

    As far as bubbles in your coolant - yes, unfortunately it does sound like you've blown head gasket. At least in cars, and I think the same in bikes that are water cooled, it depends on where the gasket has blown as to whether you get water leaking into the oil. If it's blown near the water jacket (these are the pipes inside the head & engine that circulate water around thereby cooling it all down) then you generally get water leaking into your cylinders and flooding into the oil (which you would then see in the sump oil).

    It would be a big job to do yourself if you don't have many tools and a decent garage to do it in. However if you've got time, patience and a manual you could do it. Not that hard, the most difficult thing will be dismantling the bike, and I'd guess you'll have to drop the engine out to get at everything. Before you do anything, contact someone that stocks parts for grey imports and check the price of a head gasket kit. In a job like this, it's all labour that you'll be paying the mechanic for (i'd guess they'd bill you for at least 3 hrs labour if not more), so if you can do it you'll save yourself some serious dosh.

    Good luck with it - let us know how you go.
     
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    well this mechanic ive taken my bike to is a mate of a mate.
    my mate had a word to him and ask to him to look after me. so i know im in good hands
     
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    well
    i got my bike back today and it ran like a dream.
    I was pretty impressed with the price too! He did a full service which included change of oil, oil filter, spark plugs. He fixed my temp gauge and fan so it works now, he changed the head gasket and also cleaned, tuned and balanced the carbs.
    He did this for only $663.
    Anyways i was zooming around on it alot today. went to menai to pick up my good helmet from a mates. after i got home a remembered i needed smokes so i jumped back on and the throttle cable snapped about four blocks from my house. GRRRRRRRRRR!
    so i had to push it home uphill.
    thank god it didnt happen in the middle of heathcoate road coming back from menai.
    anyways, hes gonna fix it for me too as soon as i can arrange transport for my bike to get there.
     
  17. FZR Dude

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    Both ways? In the snow? Barefoot?

    Oh wait...................... that was me.
     
  18. Boz

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    <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->
    Glad that your bike is working well with the exception of a throttle cable (whcih is an easy fix - the problem I found when that happened is that I couldn't get to any parts shop to get a new cable because the bike is my only means of transport).

    Sounds like you got an excellent deal on the service too! You may wish to let the other Sydney-siders know so that if they need a mechanic...
     
  19. bigkev

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    yeah. ive already done a post in the general folder under the title "Bike Mechanic in Liverpool".
     
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    One question abt a blown head gasket

    Is it better to know if my bike has a blown head gasket by looking at the coolant resevoir? Since the resevoir is semi transparent, its easier to know if theres an oil in there. Is it possible for the oil to travel from the leak to the radiator, to the lines and last to the resevoir?
     

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