/ Register

  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Discussion Suzuki GSX250F Across, interchangeability

Discussion in 'Suzuki 250cc In-line 4's' started by xtan, Apr 10, 2011.

Page 1 of 2
  1. xtan

    xtan New Member Premium Member

    Messages:
    37
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2011
    Location:
    Perth
    I am aware that RGV share some parts like pedals and levers but what else can be used from different bikes?
    Finding parts for the bike is hard enough already and OEM parts are just getting too expensive.

    I was thinking if bandit/katana share parts with across? Maybe footpegs/levers too/anything else?

    Can somebody confirm which parts are definitely interchangeable?

    Also I couldn't really find any websites/shops that sell anything for across but local suzuki dealers.

    I've found this website before, but is there any others?

    http://japan.webike.net/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&inc_subcat=1&keyword=suzuki+across&x=0&y=0

    Thanks for input

    James
     
    xtan, Apr 10, 2011
    #1
  2. Desmo

    Desmo Member Premium Member

    Messages:
    131
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2011
    Location:
    West Sydney NSW
    Home Page:
    Great idea for a thread. Heres what ive found so far.

    Brake and clutch levers are shared with the 2002 SV650 (if you want to grab the pazzo knock offs from ebay).

    I believe the gs500 shares a ton of things with the across as well have looked at one, namely swingarm wheels forks etc - unconfirmed

    As for the bandit and gsxr250 The basic hardware for the engine is the same, but the bandits and gsxrs have different carbies (individual carbs and bigger throat diam) and the gsxr has a different cam profile.

    Try this guy for parts too, im a picky bastard when it comes to service and Ray definitely runs a sweet business. really cheap too and honest to god must have every single little part in stock. its crazy lol.

    http://www.suziparts.com.au/
     
    Desmo, May 5, 2011
    #2
  3. kiffsta

    kiffsta Senior Member

    Messages:
    9,066
    Likes Received:
    6,872
    Trophy Points:
    1,168
    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2010
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Brisbane
    I have heard of a GS500 engine being fitted to an Across, now that would be a fun bike, I did try and use a set of Across wheels on an old GS500e that I had , while they look the same, they have different part numbers and the disk is on the other side on the GS

    I have heard there is come carry over on RGV parts as well, ie switch blocks but am yet to verify this

    thanks

    Chris
     
    • Love it! Love it! x 1
    kiffsta, May 6, 2011
    #3
  4. Desmo

    Desmo Member Premium Member

    Messages:
    131
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2011
    Location:
    West Sydney NSW
    Home Page:
    Desmo, Aug 19, 2011
    #4
  5. ozbiker

    ozbiker New Member Premium Member

    Messages:
    240
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2012
    Location:
    Townsville, Queensland
    many parts from the rm 80 thru to the gsx750 fit the gsx250f, even the thermostat fits a 1995 holden astra

    i have a text file thats *many* pages long that i have been working on for some time as i have been making my own cross reference guide for the GSX250F

    i should get my backside into gear and post it at scribd.com
     
    ozbiker, Oct 5, 2012
    #5
  6. Desmo

    Desmo Member Premium Member

    Messages:
    131
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2011
    Location:
    West Sydney NSW
    Home Page:
    Well looked at a bandit 250 engine today, and it won't fit the across with certainty. The sump and exhaust are different (the sump isn't a problem though unless you want to put an across engine into a bandit) but the head has the carb outlets at a high angle so they'll run into the boot, plus the mounting style is totally different. Changing the heads would be necessary to make it fit in (kinda pointless then)
     
    Desmo, Oct 11, 2012
    #6
  7. ozbiker

    ozbiker New Member Premium Member

    Messages:
    240
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2012
    Location:
    Townsville, Queensland
    the GSXR250 engine is almost identical. the main difference is the cams, they are more lumpy on it. i wouldnt mind getting a pair and dropping them in to my gsx250f just for a laugh.
     
    ozbiker, Oct 11, 2012
    #7
  8. Desmo

    Desmo Member Premium Member

    Messages:
    131
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2011
    Location:
    West Sydney NSW
    Home Page:
    Yep, the gsxr250 has the same carb angle and mounting style roughly so those would probably fit. Rare as rocking horse shyte though!  :p

    On a similar note i wonder why Suzuki made the bandit 250 so much different to the gsxr, gsxf and katana 250 when they seemed to recycle bits around that time. bandits got 41mm forks vs 37, very different carb setup and a few other changes. Interesting indeed.
     
    Desmo, Oct 11, 2012
    #8
  9. ozbiker

    ozbiker New Member Premium Member

    Messages:
    240
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2012
    Location:
    Townsville, Queensland
    Suzuki seem to do some pretty strange things at times, like, think its a great idea to put a timing chain right smack bang in the centre of the motor, yeah, now there is a great idea if ever i have seen one :Thumbs_up:
     
    ozbiker, Oct 11, 2012
    #9
  10. kiffsta

    kiffsta Senior Member

    Messages:
    9,066
    Likes Received:
    6,872
    Trophy Points:
    1,168
    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2010
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Brisbane
    Hmm, would create less stress on the cams as load is evenly spread on either side of the cam chain
     
    kiffsta, Oct 11, 2012
    #10
  11. ozbiker

    ozbiker New Member Premium Member

    Messages:
    240
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2012
    Location:
    Townsville, Queensland
    if that's the case, then why do a lot of car and other motorcycle manufacturer's put the cam chain on the outer edge of the motor and make it easy to change?
     
    ozbiker, Oct 11, 2012
    #11
  12. Joshua Phillips

    Joshua Phillips Member

    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2016
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Australia
    My Bike:
    Suzuki Gsx250f Across
    Does anyone have any engine diagrams of the Suzuki gsx250f? Would like to change cams, and carby set up, maybe put in four carbys instead of two duals.
     
    Joshua Phillips, Sep 10, 2016
    #12
  13. GreyImport

    GreyImport Administrator Staff Member The Chief Contributing Member

    Messages:
    10,929
    Likes Received:
    6,720
    Trophy Points:
    1,168
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2012
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Between a Rock and a Hard Place
    Location:
    North by NW NSW Oztralia - Tamworth
    My Bike:
    *Kawasaki ZXR250C *Yamaha FZR250R 3LN1 *Yamaha FZR400 *Triumph Bonneville 750 T140V *Triumph Daytona 675 *Triumph Tiger 800XC
    GreyImport, Sep 10, 2016
    #13
  14. rustguard

    rustguard Active Member

    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    178
    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2016
    Gender:
    Female
    Location:
    perth
    My Bike:
    across Suzuki
    I agree, but not because it is in the midel why not use gears like honda did!!!!!!!!
     
    rustguard, Nov 26, 2016
    #14
  15. Joker

    Joker See "about me" for contact details. Contributing Member

    Messages:
    2,737
    Likes Received:
    1,399
    Trophy Points:
    798
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Switzerland
    My Bike:
    SV1000SK3
    Meh, all my yamahas have timing chains too. Not uncommon.

    Honda were smarter though.
     
    Joker, Nov 27, 2016
    #15
  16. rustguard

    rustguard Active Member

    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    178
    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2016
    Gender:
    Female
    Location:
    perth
    My Bike:
    across Suzuki
    No not uncommon at all :(
     
    rustguard, Nov 27, 2016
    #16
  17. Murdo

    Murdo The Good Doctor Staff Member Contributing Member Ride and Events Crew

    Messages:
    6,400
    Likes Received:
    4,788
    Trophy Points:
    1,148
    Joined:
    May 4, 2013
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Tamworth, NSW
    My Bike:
    1937 Royal Enfield 250, CF Moto 250 V5, Honda's XL250, CBR250, FT500 plus a few others.
    Honda may have used the gears to drive cams, but still used a chain to drive the oil pump and you have to split the cases to get the pistons out.
     
    Murdo, Nov 28, 2016
    #17
  18. Joker

    Joker See "about me" for contact details. Contributing Member

    Messages:
    2,737
    Likes Received:
    1,399
    Trophy Points:
    798
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Switzerland
    My Bike:
    SV1000SK3
    Wow I'm not sure what is more annoying now...
     
    Joker, Nov 28, 2016
    #18
  19. rustguard

    rustguard Active Member

    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    178
    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2016
    Gender:
    Female
    Location:
    perth
    My Bike:
    across Suzuki
    so the hornet has a chain driven oil pump? that sux
    I hate chains when you have a perfectly good engine that rattles like a box sinkers. One thing I do hate more is when someone designs a timing belt that is just as difficult a job as replacing a chain. Is it my imagination or do suzuki chains rattle less than yamaha?
    Anyone ever do the chains on a mistubishi astron engine? More chains in them than a bondage dungeon.
    Never had a set of gears but always wondered what happens when you shave the head? do you have to shim them?
     
    rustguard, Nov 28, 2016
    #19
  20. maelstrom

    maelstrom LiteTek Staff Member Premium Member 250cc Vendor Contributing Member

    Messages:
    5,108
    Likes Received:
    3,477
    Trophy Points:
    1,148
    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2012
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Thailand
    Home Page:
    My Bike:
    Yamaha FZR400 3TJ1, Honda MC22
    Gear driven cams are horribly expensive and only supposed to be for exotic racing machines, like the RC30, Aprillia WSBK machine that was banned and the original MV Agustas. The fact that they are used on the 250 and 400 Hondas is simply amazing. Now these mechanical marvels are used as LAMs bikes or track day hacks and finally left to rot.

    Japanese riders were not allowed to purchase big bikes in the nineties so the factories outdid themselves making these outrageous 4 cylinder machines. Once they became old they were exported to the rest of the world.
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Well said! Well said! x 1
    maelstrom, Nov 28, 2016
    #20
Page 1 of 2

Share This Page