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Info Repairable Write off's

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  1. kiffsta

    kiffsta Administrator Staff Member Contributing Member Dirty Wheel Club

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    If you are buying a bike in Australia , always do a PPSR check as the bike may be either a written off bike or a statutory write off and marked on the Written off Vehicle register (WOVI). It costs $2 and you need the Vin Number, go to ppsr.gov.au

    What is a write-off?
    A vehicle is considered a statutory write-off if it is declared as a total loss e.g. has severe structural or other damage or deterioration that prevents it from being driven safely on a road.

    A vehicle is considered a repairable write-off if it has been assessed as being too costly to repair, but subject to state laws may be re-registered for road use if it has passed a vehicle safety and identity check.

    If you do purchase a repairable write off, then can go back on the road, but they need to be inspected to update the WOVI that it has been inspected and is safe for road use, this inspection costs $330 in Qld. This is not the RWC or blue slip as you will need one of those also.

    Once you have done your PPSR on a reparable write off, you will see some codes, these explain the damage to the bike and what you have to address in order to get it back on the road. Make sure you get receipts otherwise they can knock you back.

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    As you can see this bike has 3 areas that need to be fixed, these being :

    QLD, 22 Mar 2016, Repairable Write-off
    • I10A [Impact | Front | Heavy panel]
    • I12B [Impact | Left Rear | Light panel]
    • I13A [Impact | Right Rear | Heavy panel]

    The codes are broken down as follows :

    1st letter is Incident type



    D - Dismantled - Legitimate removal of components for use as parts.
    F - Fire - Damage caused by combustion.
    H - Hail - Damage caused by hail stones.
    I - Impact - Collision of some type with an object, for example another vehicle, tree or pole.
    M - Malicious/Vandalism/Stripped - Intentional damage, for example broken door locks, glass window or windows, paint, scratched or stripped of all or a combination of interior and exterior body parts.
    W - Water - Damage caused by water (fresh or salt) such as a storm, river or flood.

    The next 2 numbers are location, on a bike is 10,12,13

    Damage%20Location.jpg



    The Last letter is the severity

    Damage severity
    A - Heavy panel
    B - Light panel
    C - Heavy structural
    D - Light structural
    E - Unrepairable
    F - Major mechanical damage
    G - Minor mechanical damage
    H - Major stripping
    I - Minor stripping
    J - Major vandalism
    K - Minor vandalism
    L - Water (salt)
    M - Water (fresh)
    N - Burnt/blistered
    O - Smoke and heat
    P - Minor smoke

    More info here - https://www.ppsr.gov.au/understanding-written-vehicle-codes

    So based on my PPSR report , I have the following

    QLD, 22 Mar 2016, Repairable Write-off
    I10A [Impact | Front | Heavy panel] = Impact - front - Heavy
    I12B [Impact | Left Rear | Light panel] = Impact - Left rear - Light panel
    I13A [Impact | Right Rear | Heavy panel] = Impact - right rear - heavy

    I need to fix the issues, take my bike to a WOVI inspector, then get my RWC and put it back on the road, this one is beyond fixing, but I could put it back if I wanted to. NSW don't allow write offs to go back on the road, other states do.

    Hope this helps you understand how it works.

    Kiff
     
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    Not sure if it's any different up there but in SA you need the Vin written on the receipt from the donor bike if you are using any secondhand part's
    When it's inspected they look up the Vin of the receipt's for the donor bike part's to check whether that part wasn't off a written off bike too
    eg if you buy some fork's off a bike that was written off for front end damage they'll knock it back
     
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    that sounds like a con , as they don't specify specific parts such as forks as damaged, I am going to put my triumph through the process next week, I will let you know how it goes.
     
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    Such a waste of time as I've found out , clueless people will always heavily knock down the price because of its' write off history even if the damage was so insignificant.
     
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    The WOVI entry will always follow that vin number and I do agree it brings the value down a little bit , it is the quality of repairs that I look for.

    This is the bike I am fixing up , it was one from the job lot I bought. It is an 02 triumph thunderbird 3cyl 900, as you can see from the pics there is a broken foot peg , broken indicator , scratches on the front and rear guards. All of which have been fixed up, I really hope it will pass a WOVI inspection , reinspection fees are $55

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    and they wrote that off jesus
     
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    Repairable , Lockily I got 2 of the same bike so I just swapped out the broken bits , all I have bought is 2 indicators and paid for a paint guy who filled and painted the guards.
     
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    So what was the Impact, Heavy, Front Chris?
    Without knowing you would assume a bent fork etc but apparently not.

    You need to be careful though, even if that bike can be registered in Qld it can never be registered in NSW..
    A few people I have heard of had that problem...bought a bike in Qld still registered and went to change ergo in NSW and can’t be done.
     
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    A WOVI for a car is dearer, $450. Receipts are a must, also a statutory declaration describing all your repairs (signed by a JP). A seller must declare a wovr when selling, even after inspection has been passed. I was told someone had their insurance knocked back because it was on the wovr. There can also be issues between states, so even if it passed in one start, it may not be accepted in another. NSW did have repairable write-offs, and remote areas had a special dispensation for a lesser inspection that wouldn't be accepted in QLD, for instance. Best bet is to stay clear of them. I've done a bike or 2 and a couple of cars, but I wouldn't bother doing it again. I remember when they invented WOVR, back in 2000/2001 when there were a lot of cars getting stolen that were less than 15 years old. They would steal one car, buy a wreck (or sell a compliance plate at a wrecking yard) and "rebirth" the stolen car. Oh, and you can occasionally find an economical write-off. Not sure what the difference is.
     
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    To be fair , it was all pretty mild , both mufflers have scratches , broken indicator , broken foot peg and some guard damage , but knowing triumph parts costs , I see why they wrote it off. We will go through the process next week and see where we land
     
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    Not correct.
    A QLD repairable writeoff cannot be registered in NSW until it has been reregistered in QLD for at least 12 months and has had the inspection.
    After this 12 months, it may be bought in to NSW but will be subject to another expensive inspection before being registered.

    If a Qld RWO registration lapses at any time, then NSW will not give you an UNREGISTERED VEHICLE PERMIT to transit into NSW. You have to get a Qld one which surprisingly you can get on line so long as you have a QLD CRN (which most NSW riders, drivers obviously don't have)

    Agree with Kiffsta.
    A lot of the time, it's not worth the hassle. If you buy a Qld RWO that has no roadworthy certificate, then you're taking a big risk that it might flunk the NSW inspection.
     
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