how do you brake and blip the throttle to down gear?

im not really too sure what your tryin to do dude. care to elaborate?? If im pulling up to a set of lights where i know i have to stop i just slow down fr/bk brakes, cluth in and down gear to neutral. if its slowing down for a corner or traffic then i brake first then down gear. but im confused at what you mean by 'blip'. need clarrification bro!

 

I think he means giving the engine a quick rev so that when you drop the clutch it does not compression lock the back wheel.

 

like anything it's practice I 'spose - also try using the rear brake - when I first started riding I never touched it but it actually works quite well on the FZR (or at least on the 2kr which only has single disk brakes). But don't jump on it too hard or the rear wheel will lock up..

 

well not sure if my method is good, but i use 2 or my fingers, index and the one next to it, use those for the front brake, clutch in blip down gear, clutch out, ect ect, i think you can prob use all your fingers you dun need to blip that much, a little roll of the palm should be enough .. i think

 

I use all my fingers with the brake and I do blip the throttle exactly as you say - just a slight roll of the palm. It is simply practice. Try practicing jsut blipping as you are slowing on a straight without any brakes (in other words try engine braking) . You should be able to get down to abotu 5 k/hr without even touching the brakes (be sure to leave yourself some room, and when first getting used to this do it away from traffic, and when in traffic lightly press the rear brake so the person behind you knows you are slowing).

As for using the rear brake - it is good, but just remember that the majority of your braking power comes from the front and it is good practice to use that the majority of the time in any major braking, except for minor speed alterations. Many accidents are caused by improper brake use - the rear end slides a lot easier because it has very little weight on it (all the weight is transferred to the front when braking) and as such you do not have nearly the same amount of control.

 

I think braking of any sort around a corner is just dangerous. It might have some benefits but its taking your concentration away from the most important thing which is the corner!

As for blipping...Apply the same methods u do in a car..and just practise mate...I find it a lot easier on a bike once I got used to it...Can pretty much drop the clutch and its still smooth.

 

Try downshifting clutchless.

Takes a bit of practice, and for god sakes start off clutchless upshifting or you will compression lock the rear wheel.
Don't do it round corners... if ever; but atleast until you know how to. For those that are against clutchless shifting ill state right now that i ride about 60-70% of the time using the clutch, but almost enjoy going clutchless just cos its another skill waiting to be practiced.

 

i occasionally upshift clutchless, either when im riding hard or lazy with the clutch, i was wondering how do you downshift clutchless ? is it just roll off downgear roll on ?

 

Generally going down a gear requires an increase of around 1000-1,500 rpm..so just blip the throttle to that rpm..and release

 

i find a good way to learn to blip the throttle n downshifting is to practice in a carpark..
go bout 20kms in 3rd...then downshift to 2nd without changing speed...
once u get use to that...just do the same thing but with four fingers on the brake lever.


hope it helps...

btw.,..i tried doin clutchless upshifts...n i find it quite difficult,....i mean i cant do it....mayb some1 should show me its possible on my bike i gues..lol


dave

 

I was just thinking....clutchless shifting on a bike..I aint done before...and I dont think ud be able to do it in certain gears...maybe 1 and 2nd..Coz in a car u need to put it in neutral so u can blip and get the revs up for clutchless downlshifting...if your in 3rd and wanna go to 2nd...u cant get to neutral so I dunno how that would work

Dont see any benefit of it anyhow lol.

 

When i shift up without using my clutch, i usually have my foot applying abit of pressure for the gear to go up then rev it like 1-2K more then wot ur doing and apply for pressure to ur gear selector and it should just pop in. doing know if its bad when u do this to ur bike though.

 

nar its not bad for the box, motorbike gearboxes are made for clutchless shifts, as for upshifting w/o clutch what i do is have my foot under the gear lever ready to shift, as you do, then roll off on the throttle for a tiny bit, at the same time kick up a gear, and then roll the throttle back on. The gear change should be easy and much much smoother, if its not your doing something wrong ....

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