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Discussion Countersteering vs. Body-steering

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by GreyImport, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:21 PM.

  1. GreyImport

    GreyImport Administrator Staff Member The Big Cheese Contributing Member

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    1-2% seems understated. You have a passenger moving around and it is quite noticeable. If you've ever ridden a bicycle no-handed you've also shown it can be more than 2%. I used to steer through corners and those narrow pass gate things that keep cars off the footpath. Geometry effects how successful bodysteer can be, too. I'm not saying that bar steering (counter-steering) isn't more important, just that 2% is understated.
     
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    Guess bodysteer comes down to the body vs the bike :D

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    Counter steering is how you start the turn, body positioning and technique determines your speed and lean angle.

    A trick I was taught to lean out and try to kiss your mirror for every turn, no matter how silly it looks, just for practice.
     
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    Even body steering will in fact initiate a counter steer, even if you didn't know it.


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    I thought I'd try it out on the way to work the other day. At 100km/h it did little, but under 60 you can move the bike more. So the gyroscopic effect is quite pronounced on a motorbike. Also, the vtr seems to correct itself quickly, rather than holding the corner. But it was only a brief test. 1-2% might be fair for a fast speed.
     

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