Anyone have suggestions for starting a tempremental bike. I've tried the aerostart thingy, tested the sparks, cleaned the sparks, checked ALL electrical components. Starter motor turns over fine, the carbs are clean and in full working order. IT JUST REFUSES TO START!!! Cheers
obviously then you have checked the fuel? does the actual motor (as in pistons) turn over? other than that though i got nothin! perhaps someone with more knowledge like BOZ. all i know is that for an engine to work you need fuel, air and spark.
Greeny your not alone, i only know you need fuel for the engine to start.. didnt know about air and sparks... shows what i know about bikes! <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_redface.gif" alt="" title="Embarassed" /><!-- s -->
You shouldn't think that I know too much - it is just that I have gained some experience with my bike, my housemates bike, and my father-in-laws bike. Between the three bikes i have done a fair amount of 'trouble shooting'. As for the bike - I would check the fuel. I am sure you have fuel, but does it flow from the tank to the carbs? I had a in-line fuel filter which got clogged at one point - so no fuel to carbs. Cleaned this and all was fine. It is also possible that the fuel tube itself is clogged. To check this - take off left hand fairing, find the tube from tank-> carbs and unplug the point closest to the carbs as you can manage (make sure you have the fuel tap turned to off) - I usually unplugged the other side of the inline filter that was installed. Put the tube in a bottle, and turn the tap on for a second then off - did the fuel flow properly? If not then you know where your problem is - the tube, filter (if you have one), or the actual tubes from the tank. The only other thing I can think of at the moment is if you are getting enough air through. Is there any sound of it catching at all, or when you turn the key does is it just the starter motor?
I've checked the fuel flow and its fine (along with the carbs). There is suction alongside a fuel and air mix entering the cylinders. Could it be an electrical problem stemming from the alternator or regulator? Cheers RVZ <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt=":cry:" title="Crying or Very sad" /><!-- s:cry: -->
mate, what side of brissy you on???? Maybe you have the same problem i had with mine not going... my messenger is <!-- e --><a href="mailto:tanya_and_bear@hotmail.com">tanya_and_bear@hotmail.com</a><!-- e --> add me if you like <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s -->
I don't know a think about the electrical side of bikes. Have used this in the past though, and solved problems: http://www.electrexusa.com/Images/fault_finding.pdf Excellent electrical fault finding chart. Just follow it through and it could pin-point your troubles if that is where it is stemming from.
RVZ, The reason my bike wouldn't start is the shims had gotten that stuffed (due to crap maintenance) that the valves weren't opening. Does your bike turn over extremely fast, like there's no compression? I really recommend you give Tony Bogaart a call at Cycletune 32199777. Tell him you've talked to me (black FZR that i wanted to burn - he'll know who you're talking about <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s -->) and you're FZR won't start either. He's a really good guy and what he doesn't know about bikes isn't worth knowing. He also fixes all the import bikes for the motorcycle import centre so he knows FZR's inside and out. If you do get him to fix it he's not a rip off either <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s --> You mightn't have the same problem but i bet he'd know what it was.
thanks for the repy tanyathecheeky, thanks for the reply, ill give him a try. <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s -->
Maybe the whole shims thing is a 2kr problem tanya? I had the problem, the valve clearances were extremely low...but I just sanded the shims down to increase the valve clearances to the specified range <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s -->.
I just handed it over to the mechanic and said give it back to me when it's fixed <!-- s:rofl: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":rofl:" title="Rofl" /><!-- s:rofl: -->
like boz says, check the flow of fuel. I had a similar problem even after i took it to the mechanics, it would stall while i was riding, lose all power. Quick fix was i took off all the pipes leading to the tank, replcaded the fuel filter and then it seemed all good but still would stall. Decided to check the tank and it was full of ****. drained the fuel and just dumped itin the backyard (not very greanpeace i know) and set about cleaning the tank, i found chunks of metal filings, little rusty fitts and 3 washers and anut. i think that was blocking the fuel from making it into the pipes but sicne then its all good except now i need a new battery <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt=":cry:" title="Crying or Very sad" /><!-- s:cry: -->
When my bike first started to play up we cleaned the tank too, thinking it was that. Fuel was filthy, so we assumed that the filter was blocked. Cleaned that.. no luck. Then was told the fuel pump was stuffed.. not that either <!-- s:???: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":???:" title="Confused" /><!-- s:???: --> i was spewing cos it wasn't cheap to buy a new one then we were told it was the fuel itself (had to be unleaded not premium) more wasted money! RVZ.. i've found a bike group in Brissy that have frequent rides too... met a couple today and they seem pretty cool
premium vs. unleaded The fuel shouldn't make a difference and shouldn't stop it from starting. if you fuel it with premium, the engine will simply start and ping indicating that the octane is too high.
It wasn't the fuel.. The mechanic that told me that was the one who had serviced the bike for previous owner. But he was wrong, and he's also the one who hadn't been servicing it properly, and caused the problems I had with it. He had to replace the chain and sprocket for RWC for the guy, and when i was out riding the chain tensioner fell off!! I won't name him, but he's out in the country so you're not likely to run into him in a hurry.
dont you just hate lazy $%^%ing mechanics. youre lucky something more critical didn't come off! <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mad.gif" alt="" title="Mad" /><!-- s -->
