Just visited my mechanic and explained your dilemma, he assures me you have no option but to split the case. Asked him why this occurs, a) mileage and age b) improper tension on chains can also be the cause. Was hoping he would have had another way, alas not the case.
Have a look at Fox McScrooge's MC28 vapour blasted cases . . . drool. If you are going to use replacement bearings that are not genuine parts ensure that the internal radial tolerance class is correct. I have no idea what they are but probably standard. If they are not standard they will have a C# after the number (C2 are tight and c3 are loose). Standard tolerance have no C# marking. If for example the inner ring was a press fit on the shaft then the factory may have opted for a c3. Alternatively if the bearing was a loose fit on both the shaft and the housing then they may have opted for a C2. I used to fit different tolerance classes on Ducati single gearboxes because the tolerances between one set of cases and another were all over the place. Motorcycles often have c3 bearings in their wheels because they need the extra clearance to compensate for the inner ring compression that occurs after the axle is tightened. This is why correct tightening of axle nuts is so important and why the axle nuts usually have a locking mechanism eg split pin. Snap ring bearings like your are suffix NR. Since the bearing failed I would also recommend that you check the runout and fitted end float on that shaft while you have it apart. Bearings have a life of course, measured in rotations, but they usually fail for a reason. It is always prudent to go looking for that reason. Countershaft bearings often suffer from poorly adjusted/worn chains trying to rip them apart. Bearings are not expensive and it would be wise to replace them all. You must at least replace the one on the other end of the countershaft as it suffered a terrible load once its partner died. In some cases it is worth considering upgrading the bearing to a higher performance class. In the case of these types of bearings the cage is made of a lighter material and the bearings will give a longer service life. FAG have a good range of these. See http://www.phufart.pl/_struktura/katalogi/FAG/KOSZYKI INFORMATOR TECHNICZNY.pdf The polymer versions are quite acceptable and they are not that much more expensive than the standard steel cage versions. I always used these types of bearings, or even more higher spec, when building racing engines. Sorry for my long winded stories but the 250 community represents one of my most significant customer groups, so I feel obliged to contribute something. cheers Blair
Thanks Phil. My mate said he'll help me do this as he's done it before (on other bikes). Should get to it in a few weeks time. I will post some details when we start and update with progress. Thanks Blair. I will probably upgrade the bearing as you recommended. Makes sense to use something stronger and longer lasting. Can't image too many people get excited about pulling an engine out and splitting it, so the less times I have to do it the better! Cheers
Ok here are some pics These are polyamide cages. Quite cheap. I need to find some info on comparisons to steel cages. Good job for Mr Grey; he enjoys a challenge. Edit: Don't use these as Polyamide is not recommended for synthetic oils or some oil additives. and this is a phenolic resin cage Most of these are C3 and P6 thus the P63 suffix. P6 is a very high precision class and you can expect to pay 5 times (my guess) as much as a steel cage for one of these. They usually don't come with snap rings (NR) but I use to get the snap ring grooves ground into them. You need to do quite a bit of research and you can usually find a brilliant bearing bloke somewhere. RHP use to have a great range of precision class bearings and I had a good contact in Brisbane who knew his stuff. I could call him up and bounce ideas off him and he would do special imports for me. Now I am in Timbuktoo cheers Blair
No, but I like my ZXR. It's great fun to ride. Looks like I'll be riding the wife's GSXR for a while.
Blair, I probably won't get to this job for a couple of weeks (I have to wait for my mate to become available), so you have plenty of time. Appreciate the effort and information. Cheers Frank
Blair, I've finally got around to pulling the engine out of my ZXR and attempting to change the knackered bearing (this thread). I've hit a snag...I've can't get the clutch basket and pickup wheel (?) off. I've read the manual and I believe I need a special tool (57001-1243) for the clutch. This is the first time I've pulled an engine apart, so I'm taking baby steps and I don't want to use a "persuader" or any other tool that might damage the bike. I have tried my rattle wrench to try shock the nut loose, but that nut is on good and proper. Is there any tool(s) you know of that I can use to do the job without shelling out for the special tool? It's like $100 from overseas. I'll ring Kawasaki tomorrow, but I expect their price will be even higher. If anyone else reads this post and has a suggestion, please let me know. Cheers Frank
I have sometimes had success using a 'strap' type oil filter removing tool to hold the clutch while removing the nut. The cloth belt type work the best.
I have used a set of old clutch plates, just the inners will do but you can use both, to make those tools. You need to assemble them in the clutch basket and then carefully slide them out as an assembly. Then use some g-clamps to hold them together and drill a series of 6mm holes through them. Finally, cut out a piece of steel that looks like a giant bottle opener, and to the round end, you drill the matching holes that you can bolt the clutch plate set to. Job done. I did a search and found a good pic of what it should look like. In this pic they have used both sets of plates. I always made mine like this too but I used six m6 bolts not three m8 to hold them together. By the way a lot of the other pics I saw look like butcher's tools. This version will spread the load over the maximum area thereby minimising the risk of damage. cheers Blair
You could get one of these. I have used them for years. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Universa...orcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item233e660c40
Won't the clutch holder for a EN500 fit? Can someone please check clutch plate part numbers in case I made a mistake. I must go to work. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/EBC-Clut...orcycle_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e92d9a20b
Thanks everyone for your help. I like Blair's idea because it offers evenly distributed pressure and the EN500 clutch holder looks almost the same. I will have a crack at making something tonight. Is there any "gotcha's" I need to be aware of to open the engine up? The manual says to remove the starter motor...I couldn't figure out how. There are two bolts holding it on, but then the shaft seems to stop me levering it out. What have I missed? Frank