All bad :(

That really sucks! I do hope you can find an engine cheap, as your bike looked spectacular. <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt="" title="Sad" /><!-- s -->

Any ideas what caused it? Did the mechanics give reason why this would happen? I'd be interested to know (as would many I suppose) to ensure that this doesn't happen to their beloved. <!-- s:???: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_confused.gif" alt=":???:" title="Confused" /><!-- s:???: -->

Hope it all works out though in the end, and do certainly hope that this setback isn't the end of your fzr exploits.

Todd

 

engine

Hello

I have a spare 3LN engine luckily, although i am in the UK.....postage could be quite a bit if your anywhere else but in the UK!

I was going to save the engine as a spare for mine but if theres a bike out there that needs it then thats fine with me.....

Where about did you say you where from?

Gaz

 

Sorry to hear that James, fark! Did you see the person you bought the bike from and give him a few words of ur liking? <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_mad.gif" alt="" title="Mad" /><!-- s -->

I know how u feel James, dont be so upset dude your baby bike will be back on the road in no time. When i had my crashed i was so pissed cause of the money and time it took to fix it up.. but it will get there eventually. Just remember that it could of been worse you could of being doing 200km on the road and have your engine collapse on you.

Dude you have your girl to spend time with , be thank ful =)
I wish i had a girl when i had my crash to lean on 2.. but i had my gay farkin mates lol

Dean

 

Try this site, you may be able to find a second hand engine.. I'm not sure but anything is worth a try..

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Is that Liverpool wreckers? if it is just note that its not in Liverpool, Sydney LoL. He lives i think along the central coast or up there somewhere... to me its all whoop whoop <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_roll.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling LoL" /><!-- s:roll: -->

 

Rod end

Well boz broken engine parts are very hard to say the cause for them braking. A con rod snapping can be caused from to many hi revs to the part having a bad patch of metal.

Say if you drop a valve then u know that its the cam chain\ belt most of the time and so forth.

All you can do to save ya bike from blowing is to change oil alot with high quality oil. Dont rev ya bike all the way to red line all the time. (remember guys that your fzr250 makes full power at 14,000rpm so whats the point reving past that). Use good fuel and if its crap use some type of octane booster. Have nice clean oil, fuel and air filters.

All that should keep you away from trouble

 

hehe

Well good to hear that u have the new motor in and it will be on the road at the end of this week <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s --> Just keep the revs around 14,000rpm NO HIGHER. or u will have to find a nother new engine. What I want people to relise is that our engines are over ten years old. The oil galleres will be a little clogged with crap and the bearings will be worn and parts would have been alittle thrashed. Even if u have 1997 fzr 250 u your engine was still made in 1989-1992 so remeber keep good clean oil in it and keep the revs down on hot days. YOUR BIKE MAKES THE MOST POWER AT 14,000RPM SO U DONT HAVE TO REV HIGHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

but the noise.....

I am sure if you use a flushing oil or something it should clean out the oil galleries and if your engines low mileage then it should be fine surely??

mines done 28,000 km's so not that much, will change the oil often etc - i guess i can be slightly more red line happy with me having a spair engine tho <!-- s:roll: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_roll.gif" alt=":roll:" title="Rolling LoL" /><!-- s:roll: -->

You have to take it up to 17-18k's to appreciate the scream!

 

hehe

it all comes down to how long u want ya engine to last. Clean it and flush it but does that mean that one con rod dosnt have a hair line crack???? better safe than sorry eh.

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when I first got my bike I used ride everywhere (in city, on highways) between 12-14 000. I knew that is the max power band, so thought that would be good. After a while I got annoyed by the scream, and now travel in the city around 8000, and I find that this has helped performance in all areas. When I do have to 'let er rip' it goes quite happily. But at the same time I am not wearing the engine too much.

Just have to remember that those little pistons are going up/down 14000 times every minute! That is a lot of work, and the pistons are quite small on this bike. So they will wear. good oil, frequent changes, and being 'polite' to your bike will only let it last longer.

With all that said a short story. I bought my bike from a 'backyard dealer'. Had 2 fzr's to choose from - a 2kr (the one I bought), or a 3ln. The 3ln was slick - nice paint etc, but bought the 2kr because it needed less work (had new tires, new chain/sprocket, though did not look as nice) and because the 3ln had the exup valve removed. Anwyays, I return to this guy about 3 weeks later and the 3ln is there, but dismantled. It was sold 2 days after I got mine, and was returned 3 days later - the learner 'forgot' to change gears, revved too hard, and the engine seized. Result = useless bike <!-- s:cry: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_cry.gif" alt=":cry:" title="Crying or Very sad" /><!-- s:cry: --> The dealer assured me he had replaced the oil before selling, and that it was simply the rider who pushed it too hard.

It was this experience that made me treat my bike nicely, and only rev above 14 000 on very rare occasions, rather than every possible occasion. As a result I now have an fzr at over 45 000 km's (27k which I have put on), without any mechanical problems. I still change my oil a minimum of 5000 km's, and oil filter every 10 000. Clean my air filter every 5000 using a high pressure air hose, and clean the bike weekly using Mr. Sheen.

 

boz

Boz I dont mean to correct you but your coment on "That is a lot of work, and the pistons are quite small on this bike. So they will wear." Is not totally correct. The pistons are alot less likley to wear because of there size. The smaller the Piston the less power it will make but the more revs it can pull. Take a V8 for example they redline at like 5500rpm cause there pistons are large and can not handle high revs because of the load that is put on them. Vtec Civic, integra etc etc rev high and have a very hig powerband thanks to the Vtec but they can pull high revs all day long because they are small engines. Little engines such as our 1HX dont wear such parts as others will. But in saying that the more revs you pull the more load you put on the engine. Load= wear= problems. I gess what im saying is that U can rev the 1HX to 16,000rpm and with good clean oil and nice fresh fuel being deliverd you souldnt run into to many problems.
I know of some race FZR400s and they are run on very tight budgets and cant afford rebuilds etc etc and they are working in the high part of the rev range every weekend and aslong as they are looked after (oil changes, clean filter, clean fuel filter and nice gas) they run forever and run well.

thats my view any way.

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hmmm intrsting... but for real it can also depend on the build quality of the engine and engine components in question. take the suzuki across for example <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s --> ... the engine was made in aproxx 1990 to at leat 2001 the same engine for OVER TEN YEARS used in two bikes the suzuki across and the suzuki bandit.

they make max power at about 14,000rpm as well so i dont take it past that, how ever the engine redlines at 16500 rpm and although its screaming it handles it very well ! as a bike you can feel if the bike likes it or not and the suzuki sure can handle it. i mean the engines are good for over 100,000k's if maintained while other 250 bikes ( some v-twins) are only good for half that and need to be rebuilt. not once have i ever heard off the engine "blowing" up so to speak. unless your redlinin it in 6th and then drop down to first. obviously if u red line everywhere you decrease the life of your engine drematicly.

long story short suzuki stuck with the enging for so long because it was close enough to perfect. some improvemnts were added to it around 2000 with variable vale timing. but thats it. the same engine was also used in many of suzukis bigger bikes the just on a much larger scale !!

so not only dose engine failer depend on matinence (oil, coolent, filters, sticking to rpm limits ect) but also on how well the engine is desigend in the first place.

so yeah like boz said know you engines limits maintain it and it will last a long time like his has <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s -->

 

lol

mmm I gess so. Also Suzuki may make that engine because it is simple to make (produce) and very cheap. Red line is there for a reason and u should take the needle in the red. But if you ever do they have a rev cut out point which stops the bike from revving any higher. The redline is the highest point the engine can rev to. But it is the safest point that the engine can rev to. Alot of what your engine does and how it runs is also down to its run in. Remeber those oil rings have to seat aganst the piston wall or it will let oil run up into the combustion chamber and cause diffrent problems also.

Some one could buy a Across and thrash the crap out of it and it would die before it hit 20,000kms so any bike can be good if it is looked after. Once the bike is ridden away from the company that made it that bike is in the other persons hands. What I mean is that I could swear on the bible that FZR250s are the best strongest engines in the 250cc class and then BOZ could buy one that has been thrashed all its life and it could die and he would say its the worst in the 250cc class. Its all down to how it has been looked after and how you looked after it. I have seen scooters do over 60,000kms for a little engine that are working at its limit most the time thats not to bad huh lol. I have also seen a CBR600F2 that got thrashed all its life as a race bike and it done almost 90,000kms before the rider got it rebuilt. There just was no need to because he looked after it by fresh oil and letting it warm up before thrashing it etc etc.

 

lol. So this was an accidental correction?? <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s -->

Thanks for the clarification. I was trying to say that small parts can't take the abuse that large parts can. But as you said they don't - they are subject to a lot less force than in a larger engine.

I am impressed either way with high revving engines. Thinking of these little piston things going up and down at a rate of 16000+ times per minute while your riding. I appreciate engines and what they can do, and how they do it...

 

lol

ahahaha accidental correction yeah sorry about that lol. Yeah thats true Boz they would be moving at a awesome speed compared to a car engine reving 5500rpm <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> <!-- s:rofl: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":rofl:" title="Rofl" /><!-- s:rofl: --> . I give respect to the designers for coming up with such a awesome engine.