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Help 92 gsf250 head gasket?

Discussion in 'Suzuki 250cc In-line 4's' started by Tonywilliams845, Mar 8, 2021.

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  1. Tonywilliams845

    Tonywilliams845 Member

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    Hey guys, just became a member, I have a 92 jdm gsf250 bandit, the bike is suffering low compression (lowest cylinder was at 30 pound) a piston kit and honing/boring is easy said and done, however I have scowered online marketplaces for a head gasket to fit the thing, I cant find any useful information and was wondering if anyone was having similar issues and knew if other aus delivered models carried the same gasket that I could use as part of my top end rebuild?? Can I have some help???
     
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    Try this part number: 11141-06C01

    Do you know if it is the model with variable valve lift? If so it will be GSF250V model. Australian delivered model GSF250VY for year 2000, diagrams and service manual in the resources section (premium membership needed).

    Have you checked the valve clearances? A good idea before tearing it apart.
     
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    Thanks, no I haven't checked valve clearances, and it still has the jap plate on it for 1992, ill check the part no out and see where it takes me otherwise I might have to get one made special
     
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    If it's the same as other engines in this family, the gasket is metal shim. I've reused them quite satisfactorily.
    Clean them off to bare metal and repaint with suitable high temp paint before reuse.

    There are a lot of other reasons possible for your low compression.
     
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    Thanks everyone for all your assistance
     
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    I've successfully used copper-coat sprays for Cometic multi-layer steel or high-boost copper headgaskets.

    https://www.crcindustries.com/products/copper-coat-174-aerosol-9-wt-oz-401612.html

    Did you try wet compress-test as well? Any difference?
     
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    But thanks, I can get a piston kit for around 100 bucks and get some valve stem seals to fit, the head gasket was the only main issue, but it seems a top end rebuild is going to be fairly easy now, as long as I don't have to crack the crank case open I should be sweet, integrated gearboxes are the worst
     
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    Sounds like you've narrowed it down to piston & ring rebuild. Being able to re-use headgasket simplifies things. Good luck!
     
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    Hello!
    I'm currently rebuilding engine myself and I was wondering nr.1 where did you bought valve stem seals? nr.2 did the copper-coat worked for the head gasket? And the last one , maybe someone could tell me if it's possible just to buy whole cylinder for suzuki GSF250 GJ74A, I saw that they are available in https://en.impex-jp.com/, however almost every time when I try to order from them , specific engine parts are discontinued.
     
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    VVL on a 250
    Variable intake on a 400
    Suzuki seems to like testing in production
     
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    To pick up on the point about re-using a head gasket...

    Are we saying that removing what's left of the previous coating and cleaning up the gasket would allow something like this to be re-used?

    gasket1.jpg

    gasket2.jpg

    Any links to some tried and tested products to re-coat such a gasket with would be appreciated!
     
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    A group of my Hungarian customers contacted me about head gaskets very recently and I put them on to John at Gaskets-to-Go in Bangkok. https://gasketstogo.com/ I expect he will be making them shortly so get in touch with him if you want one.
     
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    Do you have some headgasket for sale?
     
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    The customers never went ahead with an order from Gaskets-To-Go. There is a Russian company that makes them also but good luck trying to buy those.
     
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    just do what Millyard does. Punch it out of copper, and reduce the compression ratio to "well, that could have been fast":1
     
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    there are ones available on the japanese yahoo site.
    not genuine but the seller have been making and selling them for a long time.
    you can use buyee or other sites to buy and send to aus.
     
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    How did you go with getting your head gasket sorted.
    Yahoo Japan are selling a better aftermarket gasket now for $44aud minus postage.
    I have four complete gasket sets for the gj74a coming in about two months (worst case scenario for postage time).
     
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    Hey, I did buy the head gasket from GJ77A and cut it in specific way so that it fits the head. So far it has worked perfectly - with this I mean I haven't had any leaks. I guess I would be partially interested into your head gasket, however I hope I will not have to take apart the engine in at least few years. There were 2 things which I did partially wrong, which is since I couldn't find OEM oversized pistons ( I found one site had 3...) I install the regular OEM pistons and I couldn't find new OEM cylinder so I went with the old one. Both of these things I assume you don't have available?
     
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    Pictures how the gasket looked like. In my opinion not too bad.
     

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