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wtb: fzr250

Discussion in 'FOR SALE' started by Chono, Jan 6, 2004.

  1. Chono

    Chono New Member

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    Im trying to a find 2kr or a 3ln somewhere around 3k or less... it would have to be a fairly old model for that sorta money but yeh. You guys know of any around or anyone selling??
     
  2. Dean

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    I dont think any of the riders be selling their bikes eh.. hehe.
    You may wish to try http://bikepoint.ninemsn.com.au/Home/HomePage.asp

    hopefully you can find a good bike there or the trading post, thats if you live in Australia.
    Are you planning to purchase the bike yourself? If you do not have the experience of purchasing a bike and checkin out the quality of it.. I suggest you bring a mate who can help you out.. i was in for abit of suprise on the hidden features of the bike... never buy at night... big mistake!!!

    Goodluck with your purchase!
     
  3. Boz

    Boz New Member

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    Sometimes bargains can be found on this bike! I got mine 2 years ago for $2500, 20 000 km's, very well maintained. Definitely make sure it is a good example before you buy - there can be a whole lot hiding under the looks of the bike!

    Bike-buyers guide - what to look for (excellent read, and not just for newb's):
    http://www.clarity.net/~adam/buying-bike.html

    There is one area on bike specific which has no detail other than know the bike you are looking at. For the fzr things I can think of off the top of my head:
    1) Check to ensure that the exup valve is there and working (many fzr's have had this removed, either because they were raced or because they were poorly maintained and the valve was malfunctioning - rather than fix properly people took it off). To check this first turn the ignition key (don't start it). You should hear an electric motor running (this means that the servo motor is still working and on). Then look under the side stand - there should be 2 cables dissapearing into a casing there - if this is the case then the actual valve is there. It may not work perfectly initially, but is easy to fix.
    2) Check the sprockets and chain. (this is explained in the link above, but fzr's are notorious for having worn sprockets/chains because the chain is quite thin for the power it transfers)
    3) When riding it there should be a smooth power curve, and there should not be any flat spots. If there is it may suggest problems with the tunign of the bike (and could add up to $500 in mechanic fees)

    After all that said - hope you find a good one! As said there are some bargains out there if you can find them! I think Jarmizz got a better deal (in NZ albeit) then I did. I have a 2kr model - the only thing I can say is that the 3ln model is the more popular of the two models (though aside from the frame the bike is pretty much the same) - and as a result many mechanics do not have details of the 2kr on 'the books' so often have a bir more difficulty determining what parts to order if needed.
     
  4. Chono

    Chono New Member

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    Thanks heaps guys for the info thats really helpful.
    hehe yeah i didnt think any of you would want to sell your bikes but just thought i would post anyway. If you hapen to come across a deal somewhere maybe you could tell me <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> Yeah i live in sydney so i have been checking the tradingpost alot lately.

    Oh just to clear something up that i dont understand... is it an fzr250r i should be looking for or does the fzr250 also have exup? Whats the difference between these two...

    Thanks again.
     
  5. Dean

    Dean Active Member

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    Good question, hopefully one of gurus here can answer it <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D -->
     
  6. Boz

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    There are essentially 3 models of the fzr. 1hx, 2kr, and 3ln.

    1hx does not have exup. I have never seen one of these, but am told they exist...
    2kr does (and steel frame)
    3ln does (and aluminum deltabox frame)

    Other than that the bikes are all pretty much identical. Yamaha actually stopped making the fzr in 91 or 92, and all the 'new ones' are simply imports complianced recently. The only difference you will find in any of the 3ln models (the last model, and the most common import now) is cosmetic.

    From my understanding the fzr250r and fzr250 (and the fzr250 R2) - these are all variants on the 3ln model, and except for the name and cosmetic badging there are no differences in the bikes. I think the 'other names' arose simply to make the bikes sound and compete with the cbr250 and cbr250r and cbr250rr (in those there are differences between models). Tells you a lot about the branding!

    Personally I would love to see a bike called 'the butterfly' or something. It would be exceptional if that is what the new kwaka zx10r was badged as! (the butterfly: 1000cc's, 184 hp, 170 kg's - I think it would be fun, but probably wouldn't sell that well...)

    p.s. please correct me if I am wrong in any of the above details. I am simply re-iterating what I have been told by various mechanics.
     
  7. Boz

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    Oh - I saw a 2002 fzr (read: 'new import', complianced 2002, built in '89) in one of the motorcycle trading magazines recently. It was labelled and painted as an R2, but it was actually a 2kr version. I have never seen a 2kr labelled as an R2 before, and I am guessing that the import company simply painted it like that.
     
  8. Jarmizz

    Jarmizz New Member

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    !!!

    Boz is on the right track. BUT i must correct you guts there is no such thing as a R2 it just came about from the R6, R7 and R1. Sorry to disapoint you guys but the "r2" isnt even a bike its just been made up!

    jarmizz
     
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    James/Boz Your right, R2 is simply a marketing ploy by yamaha/dodgy importers and it looks like it worked, I know ppl who think their bikes an R2 and i tell them it's an FZR-250 3LN like mine but they don't believe me <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

    Now i hear boz talking about a 2kr - with R2 badging now that's interesting
     
  10. Jarmizz

    Jarmizz New Member

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    Haha

    The 2KR is just an earlier FZR250 so I gess they thing they might beable to get away with it. Its stupid and crazy. Makes Yamaha look silly!
     
  11. Boz

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    I don't think yamaha is too concerned as long as they sell their bikes. ANd besides, as Embo pointed out, makes the people who ride r2's look sillier - them believing it is better than the standard 3ln model... (but this also means you can quickly find out during a conversation who has actually done their research and learned about their bike, and not just ride it)
     
  12. Jarmizz

    Jarmizz New Member

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    Ok

    Ok then we have to do somthing about it. Every one that has 'r2' on there bike take it off!!!!!!

    We all seem to be in the same boat here. R2? wouldnt that mean u have a 2000cc bike not a 250cc. R0.25 is what they should have not R2!!!!!

    We have to stop this stupid thing people are doing!!!!!!
     
  13. Dean

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    already done... never liked the R2 sticker.. and funniest thing some1 did come up and ask u got a 2000 cc?? haha i cracked up laughing... L plater with 2000 cc... wooo hooo
    sent of my fairings today.. and im goin get custom decals.. hopefully some nice designs with yamahaforever.com on it .
     
  14. Jarmizz

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    hehe

    Hahahaha Good move getting them off!!!! Hahahah a 2000cc bike wow now that would mean power dude! I wish I had a 2.0ltr bike hehehe
     
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    hehe

    Hahahaha Good move getting them off!!!! Hahahah a 2000cc bike wow now that would mean power dude! I wish I had a 2.0ltr bike hehehe
     
  16. Boz

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    An uncle of mine just put a deposit on the Kawasaki Vulcan 2000cc bike (2053 cc's). Personally I couldn't ride something like that, but he loves having that sort of power.
     
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    hehe

    Yeah but those bike crusiers arnt that powerful aye. A 900cc would smoke it. They would have abit of tourqe but na they arnt worth the time and money. I have howeveer seen one supercharegd in a mag but thats a whole diffrent story
     
  18. Chono

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    ive got a vid of a turbocharged hayabusa... <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> <!-- s:-? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_Eyecrazy.gif" alt=":-?" title="Eye Crazy" /><!-- s:-? --> <!-- s:o --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_surprised.gif" alt=":o" title="Surprised" /><!-- s:o -->
     
  19. Boz

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    Fully agreed. You just said you wanted a 2litre bike... <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) --> As it is also in the range of 400 kg's - I think many things would smoke it, not only 900 cc's.

    Personally I want to see (and perhaps try out) the new zx10r. I still can't believe the specs I have read at 1.1 hp/kg - 184 hp, 170 kg's (the fzr250 is about 0.25 hp/kg, r1 at 1.00, and hayabusa at ~0.80). It is the first market bike to have more horsepower than weight. I'm really curious to see if it does well in the superbike series against r1's, gsxr's, and cbr's as I assume there will be a few people with it.
     
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    Real

    Are you sure they are the right specs??????? Sure it isn the other way around for power/weight. If so that would be a nice bike but its still a Kawasaki which ever way you look at it <!-- s:shock: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_eek.gif" alt=":shock:" title="Shocked" /><!-- s:shock: --> It prob alot more expensive than R1????? Also you are never ever going to use that much power on the road so it wouldnt matter I reckon. I know people with newish 900cc that say they never use over 3/4 throttle.
     

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