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Replaced Guage Globes

Discussion in 'Yamaha 250cc In-Line 4's' started by sam1, Mar 2, 2009.

  1. sam1

    sam1 New Member

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    Ok so I wanted to replace my globes with LED ones so they last longer and are brighter. One of the original globes had busted so this was a good chance. I got me some of those Narva LED globes T-10mm 12v wedge globes so a perfect fit until one was T.5mm the bottom one on the speedometer.

    <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.narva.com.au/books?id=4#page=3">http://www.narva.com.au/books?id=4#page=3</a><!-- m --> I got 3 of the blue 47854 *T10 and 1 of the 47864 *T.5mm. I know LED only draw what they need so in saying that I replaced them all went to try it out tonight but I cannot see any of the dials... nothing.

    I know Dave is an electrician so hopefully he can help me and Koma wanted to do what I did back in 2006 (Oh yeah search button)

    I'm not sure why this is cos I thought seeing as they are identical to the incandescent globes they shouldn't need resistors.

    Thanks
     
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    i may be wrong but arnt dash lights only 5w or something? sounds like they are underpowered, they may require more since they are led. how many watts are they?
     
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    Just try pulling one out of the instruments to see if it is actually turning on.. LED's like this wont need resistors or anything as they are 12v LED's...

    LED's by nature are not very bright (except for luxeon LED's) so the comparison between the tungsten filament and the light emitting diode is a great difference, especially when amount of show light is taken into consideration.

    The tungsten filament will light up a much larger area compared to what an led would light up and led's are generally alot more directional.

    But yeah id just take one of them out of the instruments, leave on the power connector, turn on your head lights, if its lighting up, youve got a problem in that they just arnt bright enough and if they dont light up its multimeter time, lol.

    Check that your getting ~12v to the globe holder.

    Good Luck mate!
     
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    The incandescent ones I pulled were 1.7W, I had tested all the LED before I put them back in and they were all lit up. I guess I'll try and see if I'm getting 12v.
     
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    LED's are polarity conscious, so unless they put 2 LEDs in each lamp you need to so make sure that they are plugged in the right way round.
     
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    They are installed correct way I tested them before I pushed them into the casing. They were bright enough and very visible during daylight naturally I assumed they would light up the dials easily that was not the case.
     
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    OK I may have misunderstood your plight. Are the leds focused?? as in the light goes straight ahead. A normal globe spreads the light equally in all directions and the LED has none off the side where it is needed perhaps. Newer ultra bright leds are capable of being efficient at the job if you can get the light in the right direction. A normal ultra bright LED with a 560 ohm resistor in series may be able to be fitted in there at an angle to give decent light.
     
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    are you going for a diff color or something for the gauges? you can get red + blue silicone things that slip over the original bulbs which would solve the led directional prob,
     
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    Dave I believe they are single direction LED seeing it's the light is not spread around.
    Charlie I think I might end up doing that but that was last option, silicon covers look to produce less blue than a blue LED.
     
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    where can you get those silicone caps from?
    ive had a look through dick smith and jaycar catalogues cant find anything
    would places like autobarn or supercheap have them?
     
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    Yeah Repco, Autobarn etc should have some. You might need to order them I'm not too sure.
     
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    ive got an unopened pack sitting in rexy, i think theres about 8-10 or something in a pack, how many bulbs are there in the gauges? cas if i have enough left over you can have them x5466 if ur in the melb area <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->
     
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    So, who succeeded in getting some coloured dials?

    Pics!
     
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    Well I'm not using the LED ones I initially got cos they are just horrible. I haven't had the time to fiddle with the bike but I have some normal globes at the moment will look into the coloured silicon sleeves sometime.
     
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    Ah, the old "look into it sometime" <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->

    I got a bunch of stuff I'm going to fix sometime <!-- s:) --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" title="Smile" /><!-- s:) -->
     
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    Haha sometime means when I get the bike back from the mechanics. Which should be next few days.
     
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    Your in luck, this was a big topic back on the good ol' mx5 forum. Yes mx5, dont make fun until you have driven one.

    This is the conclusion, LED, yes. Coloured sleeves, NO!

    Basically you need to find the right LED for the job. With my job i actually tried three types; flood, directional and multi angle. Neither of the first two actually had enough direction to illuminate the dash in a blue colour. The solution was buying a set off ebay which have 5 mini led's and are very powerful, this came to me when i thought there was no solution. Mind you this is even with a green gel on the speedo dials, it still lights up bright blue.

    IF you can be bothered follow this link on ebay... http://cgi.ebay.com/Blue-T10-6-LED-...66:2|39:1|72:1240|240:1318|301:1|293:1|294:50 basically it is the exact same set that i had bought from the seller, it was such a success i helped him set up a specific package for the mx5 (thats my instrument cluster in the picture). I dont know exactly what the fzr needs but it would be a few t10's and maybe a t5.

    I hope this helps.
     
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    thanks for that info dohtcor - that looks the business! Know where any specifications can be found on these "T" leds? It'd be good to make sure I was getting some of a compatible wattage or whatever the requirements would be!
     
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    If its not somewhere on the page, give the bloke an email, hes really helpful and you can basically order whatever size and amount you want. if its any consolation i bought mine nearly a year ago and theyre still good.
     

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