1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Help Nikasil on alloy cylinders

Discussion in 'Suzuki 250cc Twins' started by Anthony Cole, Oct 22, 2022.

  1. Anthony Cole

    Anthony Cole Active Member

    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    73
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2021
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Macedon Ranges Victoria, Australia
    My Bike:
    Suzuki TS250, Suzuki GSF250, Suzuki GS750EN, Honda CB750K5 Kawasaki Z900RS
    I know Suzuki was using this technology in the early 70s with their GP bikes and some of their regular bikes were using it a few Years after that, my 1976 Suzuki TS is uses a Nikasil bore. Question: my Suzuki GSF250P 1994 is an unopened engine, did they use this plating on alloy technology with these models?
    Tony
     
  2. Linkin

    Linkin The Mechanic Premium Member Contributing Member Dirty Wheel Club

    Messages:
    4,733
    Likes Received:
    2,874
    Trophy Points:
    943
    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2014
    Location:
    Sydney NSW
    My Bike:
    FZR250R 3LN6
    I cannot tell from the parts listings. However the easiest way to find out is to have the cylinder block in your hand and look at it. If it's sleeved and they can be pressed out, they will be iron sleeves and can be bored/honed etc. If it's all aluminium and they cannot be pressed out, very likely to be nikasil and if worn out will need replating.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  3. jmw76

    jmw76 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,152
    Likes Received:
    585
    Trophy Points:
    498
    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2017
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Melbourne, Australia
    My Bike:
    Honda cbr250rr mc22 road + 1 track, Honda RC 162 tribute bike, Honda Spada Vt250, Honda CBR900RR
    Not sure either, but I would suspect that they are cast iron liners like on the bigger GSXRs and Bandits of that era.
    On the bigger bikes, the barrels are removable from the crankcase and have pressed in liners. The liners protrude from the bottom of the cylinder block and line up with openings in the crankcase. The whole assembly just slides over the cylinder studs.
    My understanding is the the smaller bandit is of a similar construction.

    The photos in this advert pretty much confirm that they are steel liners.
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/354031561724?hash=item526decebfc:g:2~4AAOSwTa9iaWS0

    Peter.
     
  4. Anthony Cole

    Anthony Cole Active Member

    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    73
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2021
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Macedon Ranges Victoria, Australia
    My Bike:
    Suzuki TS250, Suzuki GSF250, Suzuki GS750EN, Honda CB750K5 Kawasaki Z900RS
    Thanks, I may do some engine work on the bike when I have time and see what is in there, My TS has had the Nikasil re done, I found out the cylinder was all alloy with some embarrassment when the re-bore guy called me, the process is quite expensive.
    Thanks for the reply
     
  5. Anthony Cole

    Anthony Cole Active Member

    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    73
    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2021
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Macedon Ranges Victoria, Australia
    My Bike:
    Suzuki TS250, Suzuki GSF250, Suzuki GS750EN, Honda CB750K5 Kawasaki Z900RS
    Thanks Peter, Yes, same deal the GS range of the 70s and 80s, I have a 750 that had engine work during the restoration, The Bandits and GXRs must have started using plated bores sometime around the turn of the millenium, seems a piecemeal approach though as Suzuki was using it on some bikes in the 70s, maybe cost.
    Cheers Tony
     

Share This Page