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Project FZR250 project

Discussion in 'Your 250cc Projects' started by neoncrypnid, Mar 1, 2020.

  1. neoncrypnid

    neoncrypnid Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Hm well thanks for your research time. I'm thinking I'll use one washer on the spring side and use the stock metal washer on the other. The throttle shaft had never been apart so if it worked for this long... Now I'm going to wait for the kerosene headache to go away from cleaning the outside of em. Do the rest tomorrow
     
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    Once the butterfly is attached to that rod it should little to no axial movement except at full open anyway, so I reckon the metal washer against the e-clip is appropriate
    @maelstrom may be able to advise if there's an extra teflon washer in the kit as a spare
     
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    Hello :)
    Yes, we supply an extra one in most kits. Some owners were moaning that they could fit an extra one in etc, so we added an extra one.
     
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    Mystery solved, Sherlock Holmes hasn't got anything on us
     
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    @neoncrypnid If you can let me know exactly how many plastic washers the 2KR has, I will edit the web page and amend the quantity.
    Cheers
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    No problem will do. Glad the mystery is solved lol. So I've got the learning carbie in one piece, just gotta crack out the dremel for the other 3.

    Bit of wd40 really helped on the slightly damaged fuel mix screw threads, good advice can't remember who to credit it to though. Also another useful tip, don't leave an ice cream container full of kerosene somewhere you can knock it all over your leg
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    I was warned these carbs were trouble. So far that's been pretty solid advice.
    Throttle plate is bent on number 2 carb. I'm up to reassembly for that one and it wouldn't slide in on one corner. Looked really close and used some calipers, one side is twisted by literally 0.07mm but still won't go in. Whats the best way to straighten it? I can get acsess to an industrial metal folder that has a very flat edge but 30t on one bit of brass might be overkill. Other idea was to sand it by hand a little until it fit, but thought I'd ask the experts first
     
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    Bit of tapping with some wood straightened it out enough to go back in. Nowhere near as bad as i expected to be honest. I think it was actually bent from use, that shaft has the throttle cable attached to it and the spring is about twice the size. Probably bent it over the years slightly
     
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    Well its not as shiny as some I've seen here but I'm pretty proud to say the carbs are done, at least for now. Its definitely been a big learning curve compared to a run of the mill dirt bike carb bowl sprayout with cleaner. I'll give her a kick in the guts this weekend, it can't be broken if i don't try to start it...



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    Been a while since an update, got the bike running. Here come the next stage of carbie problems. Starts well on choke but it doesn't like revving past about 9k in neutral. Theres a bit of a splutter around 7-8k and blows some smoke. Dunno what the smoke is yet but theres time for that later.

    Fuel mix screw is at 2.5 turns out, took it out to 2 3/4, as it was when i got it, and still got the same problem. Didn't touch the floats so shouldnt be a problem there, famous last words
     
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    Do you have new plugs in it and leads/caps are good? Sorry too lazy to go back through thread. Even bad carbs will usually rev out in neutral.
     
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    Nope old plugs, but ive taken them all out in the past and they looked good. All sparked. Leads are good as far as i know but I'll check em again
     
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    Is the airbox on?
     
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    OK - on another FZR250, which was a 3LN - he'd put a keyster kits through the carbs and those kits have the main jets incorrect

    I know yours isn't a 3LN, but the jetting should be similar with the 2KR - so smaller jets on the inner carbs. larger jets on the outer carbs - just a thought
     
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    No, does this make a difference? The rubber 'velocity stacks'/airbox to carb connectors are on though

    Im relatively confident in the jetting sizes, since when i got it going a few months ago when i first got it, there were no problems then. Its been after I completely disassembled the carbies so im hoping theres nothing inside causing the problem
     
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    It won't rev properly without the airbox
    2KR's have the same size jet's across the 4x carby's
    Standard mixture screw setting is 3 turn's out, but will need to be tuned to suit your engine

    Other than that, the only real problem's you can have is the carby's not being clean enough (blocked passageway's) and if the float height's have been changed
     
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    Thanks ill chuck the airbox on tomorrow and see how it goes. Might also get some new plugs cos why not
     
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    Air box seemed to fix the problem. Sadly i cant be sure as something electrical caught fire and blew the fuse, i hope. Any regular suspects to check?
     
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    Which fuse did it blow ?
     
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    I think theres only 1. Tbh I don't know it was the fuse but no lights come on or anything anymore so i assume its that. Bike revved, lost spark for a split second, smoke came from between the engine and airbox where the wires are, then died
     

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