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Project Yamaha SRX 250 3WP

Discussion in 'Your 250cc Projects' started by Andych, Oct 9, 2016.

  1. Andych

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    Well, my curiosity got the better of me... I found a set of Aprillia RS125 USD yokes for a reasonable number of rubels.
    Based on info from @ruckusman and some others on the interwebs it appears the offset and fork spacing may be the same as the SRX. The head bearings are different so the stem will need modification but thats not a big deal and there would be plenty of time to figure it all out.
    Now to just wait for a cheapish (its all relevant I guess) set of Aprillia USD forks to materialise.
    Unless there are other 40mm USD forks that could fit the yokes????
    What on earth am I thinking???????????
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    Hang on, you got a set of triple clamp? Well done.

    IIRC - Hyosung uppers are 51mm at the top clamp position and 54mm at the lower clamp position.
    I can verify this tomorrow for you as I've actually got a set installed with shim material to make up for different diameter fork legs in the triple clamps.
    The fitted forks are 2005 ZX6R.
    You cannot pick the shim material unless you look for it and it took me all of an hour per fork.
     
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    Just had a look at your old thread about USD forks and it looks like they are 50mm and 52mm but I will confirm that when I get the triple here...
    I am no rush, I will probably need to get an Aprillia front wheel as I dont know if the 3WP wheel and be modified to fit the forks.
    It only has a 15mm axle where the Aprillia is a 25mm I think.
    Who knows, it may be a waste of time but I probably wont lose any money on the triple clamp.
     
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    What's your front wheel bearing?
    Is it 42mm O.D?
    If so 25x42mm wheel bearings are available, I know because I have some fitted in my 3LN front wheel.
     
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    Hmmm, infortunately the front wheel bearings are B6301 which is 37 x 12. I have the 3LN1 wheel but it is set up for 2 discs (as we know). That will all be a little way off yet. This will be a longer term thing (This build is challenging @maelstrom for glacial speed).
    Information gathering along the way.
    At least I will have some info to add to the USD Database.
     
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    WOW 12mm axle is slim
     
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    Yes, I had it in my head it was 15mm and 17 for the FZR250 but my memory isnt quite what it used to be... :)

    I guess if I use the Aprillia front wheel then I can maintain the speedo drive (if the gearing is correct) and proper spacers etc.
     
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    FWIW, of the wheels that I had collected, I think amongst them was a pair of Aprilia RS125 wheels, before I jettisoned everything, I pulled tyres, brake discs, bearings and spacers and put them on the scales, IF the set I had were from an RS125, they were heavy in comparison to the FZR250 wheel.

    I think I did scribble the numbers down, can check if you like if it helps avoid getting an unwanted heavier wheel unnecessarily as the weight difference was enough to be signifgicant
     
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    Interesting... as the FZR isnt what I would call a lightweight wheel.. aspecially with twin discs... they arent light either.
    Something like this would be good... looks the part anyway.
    Aprillia front wheel.jpeg
     
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    Yeah single -v- twin disc is a significant factor, which was why I decided to weigh just the wheels.

    Another example, the Hyosung wheels look lighter, they're not, which satisfied my curiosity on wheel designs - the Yamaha wheels are very 'competitive' when it comes to bare weight - even a YZF600 wheel is relatively light, surprisingly so, only a few hundred grams heavier than a TZR250 front wheel. 3.5" -v- 3.0" would even account for the difference.

    If you're willing to go to another set of wheels, because you're after single front disc, the whole gamut of possibilities opens up for you.
    My stumbling bock was always dual front discs, I had to settle on something and triple clamps and forks dictated dual front discs.

    Is that a Yamaha R3 front?
    If so, Yamaha R3 may be perfect, so many choices out there for you as most of the smaller capacity bikes nowadays are single front disc.
     
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    That front wheel is an Aprillia wheel.
    $226 on Bay of Fleas plus freight.
    I would probably lean more to the Aprillia just to maintain the ease of swaping over. no having to make special spacers etc.
    Geometry is all pretty much spot on... If I am going to do it I want it to be a straight forward swap.
    At the moment it really just seems like it is some machining to sort out the stem bearings, the rest seems to be pretty easy.
    But I am not in a rush at the moment. Lets see what the triple tree is like when it arrives.
     
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    OK, so newer model RS4 125 - they go round corners, matched front and rear would and should be a good update.

    Plus if you're not in a rush you can take your time and see what comes at the right price
     
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    I really need to STOP looking at eBay... I found a set of RS125 forks, they will need a good tidy up and there is a little bit of pitting very low (out of the seal area). Ony issue is they are in the UK. I have made an offer on them.. but it doesnt make much of a change in price... should be able to get them here for A$180.00 all up.
    Thats so long as my offer is accepted lol.
    Based on the pricing of complete front ends in eBay I could make money on it all if I dont end up using it.
    This modification stuff is a very deep and dark pit.... lol
     
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    I can ONLY use the front... Aprillia have the chain on the RHS so the Cush drive and also rear brake mount are wrong for the Yamaha... but that is OK.the earlier front wheels are 3 spoke similar to the SRX250 3WP and FZR so it wouldnt look out of place.
     
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    @maelstrom, @ruckusman I can confirm that the Aprillia RS125 forks are 180mm centre to centre with a 45mm offset.
    Bottom clamp is 54mm and just waiting on the top to arrive and I can then confirm that as well..
    I also now have a set of forks on the way from Old Blighty... so then I will be able to measure fork length etc as well.
     
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    You're in deep, welcome to the vortex.

    Many top clamps are 50mm, Hyosung are 51mm, not really an issue for you as you've got RS125 fork legs en route anyway, brilliant that the offset is what you need, so many USD triples are 30mm or less
     
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    Oh I have been in deep for a long time on the SRX... This will be the 3rd front end, the 250 engine, 350 engine, rear shock, rear swingarm and rear disc, 3WP tank and rear fairing, FZR250 rear wheel, 3WP gauge cluster and wiring loom...
    I should have stopped earlier as that is depressing really lol
    In the end, it is still the little SRX250 I bought way back in ......Feb 2016, but new bits everywhere... including the frame lol thumb_IMG_1937_1024.jpg
     
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    Eventually you get what you want, projects rarely fall on the 'best' outcome right at the first iteration

    [Joke] I've heard similar of parents with large families, they keep on trying until they get a kid they like
    BOOM TISH
     
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    I have been away for work for a few days and this was waiting for me when I got home.
    IMG_7079.jpeg

    I resisted the urge to measure it up last night.. but I can now confirm the top fork mount is 50mm.
    While it looks black in the picture it is almost a dark bronze in real life.. might have to see about getting it done in Ceracoat if I end up going ahead with the conversion.
    The forks are on their way... estimated around April 11th from Ol'Blighty.
     
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    Out of interest, what did the shipping from the UK come in at?

    I usually don't even bother with looking at heavier things from O.S. because the shipping cost is exorbitant
     

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