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  1. Michael Harris

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    Bike is a pain to start
    Bought it recently for my sone to ride on his learners
    Bike will start and runs on what sounds like 3 cylinders
    After a period of time it may pick up the fourth and run like a dream
    Plugs all new
    Cant seem to find coils anywhere
    Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
     
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    The coils are located under the fuel tank near the headstock.

    Check the condition of the leads and caps, they corrde and break with age, and these bikes are 20 years old. New spark leads can help.
     
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    Carefully touch exhaust headers after its warm to see which cylinder isn't firing. Alternatively pull the plugs and check for spark. Id that checks out ok id do a compression test. Someone will be along shortly that knows the gsf250v back to front
     
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    Have a look at my re-store thread

    https://www.2fiftycc.com/index.php?threads/any-help-with-gsf250v.10783/#post-129152

    I had a similar problem with the left side cylinder. No1 from left to right. Exhaust colder that the others. Bike sounded terrible - though the original engine had a big end issue.

    You can replace the leads separately to the coil.
    There is a pic there so you can see the coil without the lead in it.

    I found that when I "touched" the leads, they fell out of the coil. I replaced all of the leads anyway. When you do, spread out the wires in the new leads before you screw them into the coils and the plug caps. Just make sure you screw them in all the way otherwise you won't get a good connection. I thought mine were all in tight, but the left side once again came loose.

    Once you remove the lead from the coil. Put a small thin screw driver down into the coil to measure how far the new lead needs to be screwed into the coil so that you know it is in all the way.

    I replaced all the leads on mine just to be on the safe side and it started up fine then. After that I balanced the carbies and it now runs perfectly with the replacement motor I bought for it. Hot or cold start is fine and idles perfectly.
     
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    Will endeavour to replace leads
    I thought they were a sealed unit and have been looking for coils online which i have been unable to find
    Have been trying to start it all bloody day its like it wants to go but just wont
     
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    Ok so thanks to mate with a new coil which i removed the leads off
    And replaced mine with
    Still wont go
    Caps are good plugs are new have spark on all four leads
    Thinking it may be fuel related
     
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    Spray water in the exhaust headers and see which is not firing, look at the carb for that cylinder first. Check the mixture screw setting, needle clip position, condition of the diaphragm, jets, and o-rings.

    Failing that it could be a compression / valve issue. Clearances in these are a bit trickier due to the variable valve lift on the inlet camshaft. I haven't gotten around to checking the clearances on mine yet, been avoiding it due to lack of special tools etc but the manual is in the resources section.
     
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    Bike was sitting for a while before i bought it so thinking carbs are full of crap
    Have got it running now
    But doesnt seem to be as clean and crisp as it should
    Took it for a ride and have to fan the clutch to get it going but once it is up in the revs it seems ok
     
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    same thing with the one I bought.

    The previous owner said he has soaked the carbs and cleaned them out. Seemed to know what he was talking about, even showed me through his workshop.

    When I initially took the bowls off, it all looked quite clean etc, so though, he must have done a proper job. But even after I got the replacement engine going and seemingly running well, the idle at times and starting was a bit iffy.

    The other day I did a complete tear-down of the carbs and well, the amount of rubbish I found in them was insane and the crud that was stuck to the jets and needles as well.

    This is a good video to watch - thought it is sped up a bit so you may to to slow it down in some spots.. It will help you do to do the job.

     
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    Many thanks guys
    Looks like i am going to be busy at the end of the week
     
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    Anybody out there have a cdi for a 250 bandit gj77a
     
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    Import model so suzuki australia wont bring in parts for it
     
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    FAA47140-ED2E-4C05-AEAA-B4A33D3AACDD.jpeg Some of the GSF250V models were officially imported, mine is, the part number is 32900-11D30
     

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    Yeah i quoted the part number but was told i would have to go overseas to get one
    11D20 is the part number for my cdi
     
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    I was told the 11d30 wont work as mine is timed differently
     
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    If the TCI unit is faulty then both cylinders will fail not one.
     
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